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  1. Click on the big button in the header next to ‘Local’ that says ‘All’.
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Congrats! You have successfully done a brigading! Pat yourself on the back! Next seminar, we will be covering how to subtly deceive strategically-important redditors with a simple tactic they don’t know of called ‘whataboutism’ sicko-hexbear

Edit: meant to post this in the secret group chat where we coordinate the fall of the west. Sorry y’all. My bad deeper-sadness

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (58 children)

When a lemmy thread is put in the dunktank and people go to the thread from the post in the dunktank even if it isn't linked it still is brigading, it's brigading when the tankiejerk places do it to lemmygrad too, it's funneling people into a thread that they only saw because it was posted in the dunktank. If that isn't brigading then nothing is brigading.

It's disengenious to try to spin it as people only finding stuff in the all tab, because people do jump into the threads they see in the dunktank and that definitely hasn't contributed to making any goodwill for this site among other instances, if the person deserves to be dunked on people will find it they dont need a giant bat signal post in the dunktank to figure it out.

I do think most of the people put in there deserve it on some level, but you guys are speedrunning every other user to instance ban hexbear whenever that comes out.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When people here seek out stuff on the other instances to post there yes, but a lot of the time it's people coming here and kicking the hornets nest in which case I don't think it's brigading at least in spirit.

Brigading is a dumb concept anyway, but trying to convince ex-redditors of that is a waste of time

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Those basically always show up after the thread has already seen tons of activity from this instance.

But, it is a part of the three-year-old culture that could be problematic with federation, and has been a topic of debate because of that. We just always post an actual link to the topic cause that’s more interesting and informative than just seeing a screenshot. (Plus if you don’t you’re a lib.)

/Edit - What’s even funnier in all this is our devs just happened to be working on un-forking our pre-federation codebase to a point where we could federate when the Reddit exodus happened. They even announced it something like a week beforehand, but IIRC the main point was in being able to integrate all the nice upstream improvements. And, especially of note, before that we were probably 80% of activity on all Lemmy instances.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

i almost never switch off local anarchista-chad

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are you sure that we should use "whataboutism"? It's actually a logical fallacy.

Whataboutism or whataboutery (as in "what about…?") denotes in a pejorative sense a procedure in which a critical question or argument is not answered or discussed, but retorted with a critical counter-question which expresses a counter-accusation. From a logical and argumentative point of view it is considered a variant of the tu-quoque pattern (Latin 'you too', term for a counter-accusation), which is a subtype of the ad-hominem argument.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most of the time libs use accusations of it improperly in the first place. Shit like:

A: "Cuba is a failed state."

B: "Cuba's difficulties arise mostly from the American embargo."

A: "America? Oh my God whataboutism!"

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