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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

This is what Conservatives around the world want and glory hallelujah we are almost there! The only difference is all those rations will not come from the government but from corporations paid for by the government.

  • 4 boxes Kraft Mac and Cheese
  • 6 cans Heinz Beans
  • Etc.
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This ladys eating better than I do

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

How?

With an average net income ranging from 1100 USD to 2400 USD, any average worker should eat better than this

This lady monthly rations amount to approximately 160 USD, while the average minimum wage workers spends from 260 to 350 USD worth on groceries

Which I really doubt is a problem, given that the median of the monthly income in usa is about 5k usd

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Was this meant to be supplemented?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

That's a very good question

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (5 children)

12 packs of cigs seems like a huge luxury

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

For a month? It's just dried shredded leaves wrapped in paper, cigarettes are super cheap to produce, tax makes them expensive.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

You didn't live in the eighties I bet. It was cheap back then and everyone smoked.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Looks equivalent what you'd get at a Canadian food bank nowadays that's meant for 3 days.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 days ago (4 children)

ah 12 packs of cigarettes and a half a litre of vodka. a complete balanced breakfast.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Shieet i could down all of that in 3 days easy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

damn that's like 8000 calories per day

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Now you know why people don't smile in Poland.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Hey, I'm Polish and I do sometimes smile. I am living in Denmark, dough.

[–] [email protected] 142 points 4 days ago (17 children)

Lmao 2.5kg of meat? Forget it. If you got any, it was a day to celebrate. You couldn't get shit for stamps and you had to stand in long queues to get the scraps that you could get. You waited for hours for a delivery that immediately disappeared or didn't come at all. You literally bought what you could. People used to barter the stamps and a grey market to get what you needed popped up. The only way to get what you wanted was to pay with dollars.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's not enough butter. I would have been put down young for rioting about criminally low amounts of butter.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Reminds me of the leftist venezuelan regime monthly rations in the form of cajas clap.

Absolutely disgusting food.

Thank goodness I was able to escape the dictatorship with my family

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you for posting this. I don't understand what a lot of those foods are. It looks like a heck of a lot of it is pasta/noodles based though. And maybe milk powder? Where is the protein other than the canned tuna(?) up at the top.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That was it. No more than that. Worst thing is that almost all this products are from Mexico. Before the collectivists and leftists took power in Venezuela, we used to make all these products

Left to right

4 blue pasta packages, 200 grams each

4 green rice packages, 1 kg

4 yellow spaghetti packs. 200 grams each

6 shredded tuna cans. 130 grams each

1 oil bottle. 1 liter

2 red bottles, tomato sauce/ketchup. 220 grams each

2 orange packs, corn flour, 1kg each

1 pack of refined sugar, 1kg

1 white pack, dry whole milk, 500 grams

2 green packs, black beans, 1kg each

3 yellow packs, egg spaghetti, 290 grams each

3 red packs, elbow shaped spaghetti , 200 grams each

1 blue pack, lentils, 1 kg

Take into account that this is supposed to last a family of 4 a month. If it ever arrives.

Because it's assigned per family

Also, as most of these products are from Mexico, the transportation is not the best and most of the time they arrive corroded, open by rats, or with less or very different products than advertised

So yeah I'm glad I escaped the collectivistic hellhole with my family mostly intact

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

Thank you for answering, this is very eye opening. In Canada we get a similar amount of food at our volunteer based food banks that is supposed to last a month but lasts a few days, but it's different in the type of product. And it would never be given to us in a state that was degraded or torn into by pests.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

That catsup can go 2 ways. Ketchup or Cat Soup

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Oh, she looks so happy!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Unpopular opinion: we need to ration electricity consumption as well as fuel today, even in capitalists countries. Because that stuff actually has incredible impact on the planet, and will (must) drive consumption down, so that companies / individuals start integrating "efficiency" into their thinking

I don't see any other solution to the "exponentially growing power consumption" problem.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I don’t see any other solution to the “exponentially growing power consumption” problem.

In the U.S., at least, power generation has been roughly flat for the last 20 years, not growing exponentially:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_of_the_United_States#/media/File:Timeline_of_U.S._electricity_generation_by_major_energy_source.png

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pigouvian taxes are a traditional solution to negative externalities, and they are often better received by the public than rationing.

  • It's expensive to be poor - the lights turning off a few days before the end of the month will incur even more costs than a higher electricity bill.

  • Taxes raise money for other programs, instead of costing money to enforce rationing.

  • Higher taxes in general will also help reduce inflation.

  • Tax revenue can be spent on stimulus checks to offset the cost for people who use less energy than average.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Rather than stimulus checks we need to be using the money to subsidize alternatives. And we can just switch subsidies. Some examples of that include that by reducing cattle subsides we can subsidize lower emissions meat alternatives or even offer free classes on how to cook meals that happen to be lower emissions, and we can stop funding airports and put that money into rail systems, similarly by removing mandatory minimum parking and reducing road funding that money can be put into transit solutions that enable less car centric lifestyles.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 days ago (1 children)

0.5 liter of vodka? What were they supposed to do the other 29 days of the month?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can someone calculate the calories in that? I'm too lazy.

Maybe don't include the sugar. That's a shit ton of sugar to go through in month.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Ballpark estimate, excluding the sugar:

2.5kg beef: ~6265 Calories

0.5l vodka: ~1082 Calories

1.3kg white rice: ~4743 Calories

1.3kg flour: ~4732 Calories

500g butter: ~3585 Calories

300g cooking oil (Google says rapeseed oil is popular in Poland so I used that): ~2652 Calories

250g chocolate: ~1338 Calories

Total: 24,397 Calories or ~813 Calories per day

Some other people online also did the math and came up with similar numbers. For example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37027027 came up with 33,063 Calories (including the sugar)

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 4 days ago (6 children)

That's like, half a days worth of vodka

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

They have almost as much sugar as starch, 2.5kg of meat, and no other protein?

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