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Mozilla partners with Ecosia for a better web
(blog.mozilla.org)
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In that sentence, they're not referring to Ecosia specifically. Rather, they're implying that you can choose a search engine which aligns to that value. A little weird to include it with no examples, in a post specifically about Ecosia, but I believe that's the intent.
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Mozilla is on a great tear. Layoffs, pointless rebrand, and now a shit privacy greenwashing search engine partnership. I'm so excited for the future of Firefox.
Aren't we all?! /s
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I'm waiting for Ladybug
I'm waiting for Netscape
Firefox WAS Netscape. Netscape was open sourced, rewritten, and released as Firebird (in reference to a phoenix’s rise from Netscape’s ashes). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Application_Suite
here ya go: https://github.com/wicknix/brass-monkey
I've been following Ladybird as well, and hope it comes to fruition. Without it we're kinda fucked.
I think there is suppose to be a an alpha coming this summer.
Which pointless rebrand? I actually like "moz://a".
Yea, but they changed to a weird flag thing (?) and a boring font logo:
At least they got this guy:
Oh well, at least the error animals are foxes and not a really weirdly drawn dinosaur
So... what does this partnership actually mean? Will Ecosia be the default search engine once the deal with Google ends?
Ecosia, the "green" search engine with AI chat. Perfect match for Firefox, the browser ever more integrated with AI technology.
I've just given up on Mozilla, using Cromite after a decade of Firefox/Fennec on desktop and mobile had been such an upgrade.
Id still trust/prefer a firefox based browser than something chromium based. Their are a lot of good firefox forks out their and it helps make googles stranglehold of web standards slower. I wish u luck one manifest v2 gets killed (ik its still supported for some forks of chromium but how long is that gonna last?)
What do you mean by trusting? I trust Mozilla to increase the executives wages at the cost of everybody in the organisation. I trust that they'll incorporate more and more features I find unwanted. Privacy-wise I haven't trusted Mozilla since telemetry was opt-out. Security wise I haven't trusted any browser for decades.
Each to their own, I hope you're happy with your setup.
Unfortunately it's more complex than that, because of the issue of the rendering engine. If Firefox-based browsers disappear, the W3C (which controls web standards, including questions of privacy) will be de-facto controlled by a cabal of corporations. The last voice that cares even slightly about our privacy will be gone.
Opt-out telemetry is bad, overpaid executives is bad. The alternative is worse.
With no intention of stirring the pot, this sounds just like the pre-election arguments in favor of Democrats.
The last voice that cares even slightly about our privacy will be gone.
The emphasis here should be on "even slightly" rather than the dramatic effect of "the last voice".
I mean, if this slice approaches zero, then why it is better to stay with Firefox rather than moving on to more radical solutions?
Indeed, this is just the pragmatism-vs-idealism debate.
I am a pragmatist, you are an idealist. In my view, by asking for everything you are more likely to get nothing. It's not worth it. It's irresponsible.
this sounds just like the pre-election arguments in favor of Democrats.
Yes, and excellent arguments they were. What a different world we might live in today if just a handful of idealists had decided to suck it up and vote for the Democrat instead of the third-party purist who made their heart sing.
if this slice approaches zero, then why it is better to stay with Firefox rather than moving on to more radical solutions?
Because history shows that "radical solutions" are almost always a mirage. We already have an excellent browser made by a flawed but generally admirable company. If there are problems, the solution is to fix them, not to burn it all down.
Browser choice and presidential vote are so different from one another as to have no value in their comparison.
If you insist on crapping on third-party US American voters, please do it in the politics community in Lemmy.world.
please do it in the politics community in
To spare you the trauma of hearing an opinion you don't agree with? Contemporary US politics in a microcosm!
It was not me who made the comparison.
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So u dont like group a whats ur solution? Start supporting group b who are way way way worse? Doesnt seem like the brightest idea to me ngl
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Oh great, shitty bing search results with tree NFTs.
oh no, don't take away Google results that fill the entire screen with ads and irrelevant bullshit that relies my stolen data before my actual search terms!
Ecosia being any better in this regard would be news to me. They also rely on ads for funding.
As if Google's results haven't been getting worse
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Wouldn't this upset Google? (who is the biggest revenue source for Mozilla)
Mozilla will probably lose (part of or all of, it's not clear yet) Google's funding following their monopoly case, so it's probably best for them to look for other revenue sources.
They could also stop all this nonsense crap projects they sink money in without any real benefit, and focus mainly on the browser. This would give the browser likely 500% more funding than it has right now.
Have one product, but make it a perfect product.
500% more funding than it has right now.
From whom?
Their financial reports are public.
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So after constantly yelling at Mozilla for 10+ years they should do all kinds of things like a VPN, now we no longer find them to experiment to find alternative money sources?
The money sources are not the issue. The money sinks are. An no-one ever yelled at Mozilla to offer a VPN.
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Their other projects mostly exist, because those make money. The browser hardly does so, outside of the search engine deals.
Their other projects mostly exist, because those make money.
Except the projects that don't make money.
Oh, that's bad. Ecosia won't even give them a fraction of the revenue google does... I've no idea how they're going to continue going on...
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