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First they tried "But he was rich!" And that didn't stick, so now they're going back to the old political divisiveness play book with "but he was a right-winger!".
Don't fall for it. The powers that be desperately want public opinion to turn on this guy.
The fun thing about this is that the more the media doubles down on "he's a right-winger!", the more united the rest of us may become over him.
Think about it - Hardcore right-wingers in the US strongly wish to associate with "their own" team/teammates. If Luigi had been left-wing, this division tactic could have worked to convince a number of them to turn against him. Instead, highlighting his conservative viewpoints gives right-wingers more reason to cheer for him.
Meanwhile, left-wingers and their diversity tend to identify less as a single "team." They've got more free-thinkers, both of the scientific "skeptic" mindset and of the artistic "open possibilities" mindset (or both.) Either way, there is recognition that they aren't all going to agree 100% with each other on everything, but they still recognize that we're all in this together.
Neoliberals already denounced him. In fact they were the first to. Gotta cling to the status quo no matter which way the winds are blowing.
The corporate media are inveterate reactionaries - that stance even sums up their business model. It is hilarious that they are so lost in their own bullshit that they assume their enemies are reactionary also.
Depends on what it is you think we're all together in. If it's systemic reform caused by a big blue wave, then yeah I'm in, but if it's nationwide arson and collapse of the system of laws, then no I'm out.
It isn't about him, though. Or at least it shouldn't be. It's about our broke-ass healthcare system that we need to fix.
I don't care about his political leanings. This shit is about class warfare.
I only bring up the fact that Luigi was rich whenever people say bullshit like "it was revenge" or "he's a lower class icon".
Mmmmbut... But... He played Among Us!! A violent videogame!!!
Even if he’s scum of the earth (doubt it) the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
He seems run of the mill rich gen z tech bro with serious back problems. Which makes his points even stronger being a traitor to his class. Assuming he’s the shooter.
This story isn’t going away and the rich -especially those rich from blatantly problematic industries - should be scared.
There’s a very deep genuine anger in this country and it’s tied to emotionally charged life or death issues. I’m just surprised it’s taken this long for the powder keg to start to blow…
The governor of NY should give him a full pardon, and the mayor of NYC should throw him a parade. What he did was an act of justice, bringing righteous vengeance upon the wicked. He did nothing wrong.
He's not a traitor to his class. He's working class, not owner class. He had jobs, he worked. He's working class, even if he's rich.
A tech bro killed a CEO and united the whole country in their hate for a predatory system that makes money off the suffering of everyday people like me.
I wouldn't care if he warmed up tuna sandwiches in the office microwave.
I wouldn't care if he warmed up tuna sandwiches in the office microwave.
Too far. Way too far.
Yo, if that one guy had killed Trump, I'd have called him my hero. Republican gun nut or not.
For killing Trump, I would excuse a CEO.
Nope. What he did made him a hero.
Let's say that this is the guy, and that he's a CHUD.
A guy like that still shot a CEO over social ills. Only when it became personal, apparently, but still.
That should leave healthcare executives fucking terrified. A guy like this acted the way y'all think communist revolutionaries like *checks notes* Chuck Schumer will act.
Denying half of all claims makes medical agony personal for a metric shitload of people.
Still not convinced it's the guy. Luigi taking the fall while Mario walks free, a tale as old as time
exactly! at the beginning everyone was sure of this, and now everyone seems to believe its him, although it obviously is not???
maybe the "cover up" is Working after all.
Based on his Twitter history he's a "rationalist" aka "gray tribe" - generally tech-savvy guys who believe pure reason sits above ideologies.
I was constantly lurking on rarionalist forums until late 2016, and much less so now. When Bernie made his arguments the entire community shifted left. Given Yudkowsky's positions on responsibility (in short all of us should do everything we can to maximize utility) I am entirely unsurprised to learn that one of us is the person who merc'd the guy. My radicalization started with Yudkowsky and then it was set into overdrive by watching the DNC be selfish while the GOP had been abjectly horrid.
Whether we're successful more often or not the rationalists are mostly trying to reduce suffering and maximize pleasure for as many people as possible. That's why we're so into tech; we see it as a way to improve as many lives as we possibly can. Luigi likely saw this as the way he could do the same. The fact that he was spurred to action by his own particular suffering doesn't change the fact that he was probably right.
He should read some Kant and Hume.
Human reason, in one sphere of its cognition, is called upon to consider questions, which it cannot decline, as they are presented by its own nature, but which it cannot answer, as they transcend every faculty of the mind.
Reason is and ought only to be a slave to the passions
He may have read both - apparently he's very well read. My guess is he would disagree with Hume on that point, but I don't know the guy.
Well Hume was right. Reason can't derive axioms. It can't create purpose from nothing. It can't solve the is-ought problem. Passion can. Passion can say "the world should be like this. Why? Because I want it to be". Reason can't do that. And thus, reason should exist only to serve passion.
OTOH reason has kept a roof over my head when my passion would have had me do Arduino projects or write D&D campaigns instead of working. Maybe Hume's gf had a job.
You were probably more passionate about keeping a roof over your head.
No, the word "dispassionate" perfectly describes when I'm forced to work on necessities instead of things I love.
IMO it should be cyclical. Passion provides ideals and goals, reason can help work towards those but also evaluate them and refine them.
Like once upon a time, I wanted a high end sports car. But over time, through reason, I realized that owning one would be more of a net negative than a positive in many ways and now I wouldn't likely get one even if it would be trivial to afford. I'd like to not even need a car at all, but reason has me recognizing that that also wouldn't be a positive given that I live in an area where mass transit infrastructure is poor.
This boils down to having conflicting passions/goals and using reason to resolve them (like wanting a sports car while also wanting to afford other things and to reduce my environmental impact and not driving a sports car is a very easy way, trivial even, to have less impact than driving one).
I don't think they'd find that very insightful.
It's plain hedonism. I'm sure they're familiar with the idea.
Luigi?! What happened?!
Too many Civ VI Bugfixes /s
he was a right winger
He might be a sexist, racist nazi, I'll still give him a pass. Deeds speak louder than words.
Exactly! Idk how we went away from this but whatever goes inside your head doesn’t matter at the end of the day, you can be hateful all you want if your able to do good actions.
That’s what freedom of speech is suppose to mean, it’s fine when it’s all thought experiments and hypotheticals, but when you put thoughts into action, then there can be consequences if said actions are bad.
Yes! I am a leftist now, but I was raised Christian conservative. I truly believe that if you don't believe that people can learn and grow then can you truly call yourself a leftist?
shows that were all abused together.
Emphasis because you mean "used to be"?
Luigi was never the prototypical right-winger.
He was more of a tech bro libertarian.and even that seems to have been blunted by his pain and experience with US health insurance.
I'm not sure how intentional it is and it'd probably be veering into conspiracy to suggest that it is, but the more people know about the CEO murderer, the more of them will turn against him and each other and go from class war back to culture war.
It's done the opposite for me. They're making him a relatable human, and he's shown us we have more in common than we thought.
