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Guaranteed the word "woke" will be thrown around left and right

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Might be a hot take, but reporting on that just generates the wrong kind of buzz.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 week ago (26 children)

How could anyone hate Ciri :c

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I can't understand hating Ciri as a chracter, but I can understand being kind of a disappointed not having Geralt as a playable character.

If you consider it as an isolated game it doesn't matter, but when you play three games as one character and then suddenly switch to another character it can feel kind of melancholic, in absence of a better word. Especially since now there's a non-zero chance that they'll kill Geralt in the new game.

But anyway, Ciri was an interesting character and those parts in Witcher 3 where you played as her were great.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

and then suddenly switch to another character it can feel kind of melancholic

Its not that sudden, Ciri was playable in Witcher 3 at times and the ending that has to be canon for her to be the W4 Protag leaves Geralt alive and old, and if you count B&W the owner of a vineyard where he can chill with his girl of choice, so they don't even need to kill him off

"He's old and hangs out in Toussaint now, he sends Ciri letters" would be easy to do

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

It's not sudden at all. In fact there's no way you can be a fan of these games and not have seen this coming. It was the very obvious Next Step.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Someone that did not read the books. There are multiple points where the story shifts to Ciri. In a similar way Ragnarok shifts to Atreaus.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I've seen more posts complaining about complainers, than I've seen complainers.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is Lemmy. You're looking for reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I haven't seen a single complaint about Ciri being the protagonist of the next witcher game andI believe it's because she isn't a "let's put a woman here for the quotas" type of character.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah, I honestly haven't seen an actual complaint.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Add Naughty Dog's "Intergalactic" to the pile: The protagonist is female and a PoC! The usual suspects are already frothing at the mouth and recording a bajillion outrage bait videos for their Youtube channels.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And bald! Which probably reminds some of the negative anti-wokers of their current day living situations

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[–] blarth 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No no you see it is because I have dedicated the last 20 years of my life to Witcher lore and have memorized not only every line but every plot in the series and books, and you see, Ciri is supposed to be much [choice: less/more] powerful than this trailer makes her appear! I’m boycotting this game and recommend everyone else does too! I’m tired of them shitting on lore with woke propaganda!

Anyway, I think that covers it.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

How come how the absolute worst men are allowed to represent the entire gender?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Being loud and offensive attracts more attention than being normal

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A chain is not stronger than its weakest link or something

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

(Lore nerd rant ahead, tl;dr: Ciri being the protag is 100% fine and I expected it but her being a full witcher is weird)

There's exactly one somewhat valid complaint to be had here, and it's that Ciri in the books explicitly didn't go through the Trial of the Grasses (aka one of the main mutation processes that makes you a witcher or, as it often happens, just straight up kills you), so idk how they'll justify her being able to use witcher potions and stuff now. And (also in the books) she has lost her access to magic at one point, so using witcher signs is strange too.

I can see her wanting to take the plunge and go through with the trials, but I'm also certain that Geralt wouldn't want that for her bc of how much it fucks you up + most of the secrets of the trials have been lost.

I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and wait and see what explanation they come up with for her being a full witcher, but it better be good.

So, from lore perspective, I have no objections to her being the protag but I don't love her being a full witcher. I liked what they did with her gameplay sections in W3, I hoped they'd have just expanded on that gameplay idea more.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Just because she does it in the trailer does not mean we start there in the game.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (38 children)

The thing is though, they don't care about women in video games, they just care about "ugly" women in video games. as long as they can look at an hourglass shaped woman with massive curves in a skinsuit they don't mind.

don't go down the rabbit hole of "fixing female characters"...

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Doesn't Geralt basically retire at the end of 3??? Of course it's her turn to be the protag, fuck the haters.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You also spend multiple chunks of the game playing as Ciri. Like what are folks expecting?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The kinds of people that claim "wokism" in games tend to also not actually play the games they're bitching about, so they don't actually know what to expect.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I don't understand the hate for women in video games, If the next Doom game comes out with a female protagonist I'd be going "HELL YEAH RIP ITS HEAD OFF!!!" the same way I do in Doom Eternal

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From shitty YouTuber influencers.

A guy from work constantly tells me how I should feel about a game based on a YouTuber he watches. He doesn't play it, he just parrot that shit. Often it's the most sexist, disgusting take.

And most of these influencers are outright basement dwellers with pride.

So like, they're getting shitty takes from shitty human beings who are proud of being shitty?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Guaranteed the word “woke” will be thrown around left and right

More like it will be thrown from the right

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ciri is such a great character in the books. I hope they can get a lot of that personality into her in the game, too.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Funny how none of them had a problem with like 10 games about Lara Croft.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

I don't get it, Witcher already has a bunch of female protagonists.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Don't understand the hate. I also prefer sexy characters as I dont prioritize realism in games and am looking for escapism but that isn't the game. If you want a game with sexy characters, there are plenty.

I often mod games to add that asthetic. I'll probably wait for this to be on a big sale once there are such mods for that reason.

Don't like what they're selling? Don't play it. Or mod it. Don't screech on the internet that it's not fair to you. You didn't make the thing.

So much rage. It's like complaining a romantic comedy isn't an action movie.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Why would they do this? Why would a producer produce something they wanted to produce??????

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

I guess they haven't finished the witcher 3 then🤷‍♂️ ciri is obv the only way foward by then.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Isn't female witcher technically a witch? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

In general English usage I think you may be right.

In the world of "The Witcher" (which is translated from Polish) there are both male and female mages with inborn abilities. Sometimes they are called sorcerers and sorceresses, sometimes they are called mages, sometimes they are called something related to their specialisation of magic, and sometimes wise women who do magic but didn't go to the academy are called witches.

Witchers, however, are not mages. They are made from ordinary humans and are gene manipulated and highly trained to be monster hunters. They have some witcher powers that are related to runes, and they make potions that have side effects only they can survive thanks to their manipulated bodies. Witchers at birth do not have special potential. Though a lot of little witcher trainees die, so you could argue they are artificially selected in that way.

Ciri is kind of neither of those, but she has special abilities related to space and time manipulation. In the new trailer it seems she drinks a witcher potion, but from what we know she never underwent the manipulation that witchers did.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Like this: I woke to news of a cool-looking Witcher game?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hate how everything has to be stupid culture war nonsense these days.

I'll probably get the game but be disappointed I don't get to play as Geralt.

I'd also be disappointed to get a new Horizon game where I don't get to play as Aloy. Does that make me a misandrist?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Its only woke when it doesn't succeed.
To name two of way too many examples:
Baldurs gatev woke until it was a hit.
Dustborn, still woke cause it flopped.
The grifters have never been more obvious than now.

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