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[–] 377 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Threatening the hospital that was denying my father care, leaving him to die, was the only way I got into the literal board room to reason with them. I got them to resume treatment after they dicked around for a month and he refused to leave because he was going to die if he left.

He still died because he was so sick at that point that they couldn’t do the procedure he needed when he first arrived.

So I threatened them in 2010, and I’d fucking do it again now for my child. We are supposed to stand up for our loved ones.

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  • [–] 138 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It's disgusting. There needs to be legal recognition of all that is at stake for patients and their families. The denial of necessary care is structural violence and should be treated as such by everyone.

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    got them to resume treatment after they dicked around for a month and he refused to leave because he was going to die if he left.

    I had to play this card once, too. I was in the cardiac unit for 28 days, and they were going to send me home because they couldn’t figure out what was wrong, and the insurance decided I wasn’t worth the expense anymore.

    I refused to leave until they gave me a diagnosis, because i would have just died otherwise.

    Pretty sure the healthcare system still wants that.

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    [–] 266 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    So, no free speech in the US after all?

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    [+] 254 points 2 years ago* (12 children)
  • [–] 176 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Interesting to note, they mentioned the Florida woman's name, but not the judge's.

    Interesting, interesting, interesting.

    I take it that was the the information they could get.

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  • [–] 61 points 2 years ago*

    Well Lakeland is Polk county, known by people who grew up in FL as the meth capital of Florida. All arrest records are public record in Florida, so finding a judge wouldn't be hard I imagine. First appearance court rooms should be the link below. Not sure which judge it would have been on Wednesday.

    I said Wednesday because if she was arrested Tuesday Florida does first appearances the next morning (unless it's a weekend) https://www.jud10.flcourts.org/virtual-courtroom-links/polk-first-appearance

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    [–] 180 points 2 years ago (20 children)

    I imagine the "Delay, Deny, Depose" didn't get her in trouble nearly as much as the "You people are next" part. Yeah, that's a bit hostile there.

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  • [–] 285 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Please, marginalized people get more explicitly threatening crap said to them all the time and people rarely get arrested or charged for that. She's being charged because the system wants to make an example out of her. The judge basically said so himself at the bail hearing,

    "I do find that the bond of $100,000 is appropriate considering the status of our country at this point," the judge said.

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago

    There's no direct threat there more than saying the boogeyman will get you. People threaten marginalized communities like this on TV, radio and social media every day with no impunity because it's just vague enough not to count because stochastic terrorism is totally cool for SOME people.

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    [–] 173 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Remember this the next time the cops tell someone they can’t do anything about a stalker or angry ex threatening to kill them until they actually act. They can do something. They choose not to.

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    [–] 161 points 2 years ago (31 children)

    She said "Delay, Deny, Depose. You people are next," according to the article.

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    [–] 138 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Proof that the justice system only serves the wealthy.

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    [–] 120 points 2 years ago (1 child)
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    From the article’s source article:

    “She’s been in this world long enough that she certainly should know better that you can’t make threats like that in the current environment that we live in and think that we’re not going to follow up and put you in jail,” said Lakeland Police Chief Sam Taylor.

    I thought we had a legal definition of a real threat, and this isn’t it.

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    [–] 84 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    Attorneys have said the insurance industry uses a "delay, deny, defend" tactic to withhold health care services.

    Jailed for using words to describe what insurance companies do?

    Judge is trying to fill their year-end quota.

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    [–] 74 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Looks like a lot of us are going to jail over the next 4 years.

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    [–] 69 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Nothing like jail time to radicalized someone more. Judge is playing 5d cheese by providing motivation.

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    [–] 66 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Freedom of speech, as long as it's completely meaningless.

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    [–] 64 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Lol, catch phrase or actual corporate practice? Because quoting a company memo to said company is apparently a threat.

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    [–] 64 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I'm sure the "Free Speech" people are up in arms about this, right?

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    [–] 58 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    "You people are next" does seem pretty threat-ish, however:

    After being charged with threats to conduct a mass shooting or an act of terrorism, a judge set Boston's bond at $100,000.

    That is completely out of touch with what happened. "You people are next" not an act of terrorism.

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    [–] 53 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Why? She was delayed, denied, and deposed. If it's so bad then jail the insurer.

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    [–] 50 points 2 years ago* (6 children)

    Delay, deny, and depose the FBI. The FBI isn't acting like this during a Trump presidency, this is the most lenient it gets at, during a democratic presidency. With a Trump presidency, Americans should familiarize themselves with current Russian society to know what they should expect for its future. Fuck your messed up police state, Americans, and fuck a constitution that only seems to be propaganda bullshit that is too much for the FBI to live by.

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    [–] 48 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    This will definitely ease tensions among the masses and rouse support for the Healthcare execs lmao

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    [–] 45 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Her expression says I can't believe this shit. I can't, either.

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    [–] 44 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I’ve heard worse death threats in Fortnite.

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    [–] 44 points 2 years ago (8 children)
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    [–] 42 points 2 years ago

    They think they're making an example. That this will have a chilling effect.

    They're wrong. All this is going to do is radicalize even more people. As it should.

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