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Hello comrades. In the interest of upholding our code of conduct - specifically, rule 1 (providing a friendly, safe and welcoming environment for all) - we felt it appropriate to make a statement regarding the lionization of Luigi Mangione, the alleged United Healthcare CEO shooter, also known as "The Adjuster."

In the day or so since the alleged shooter's identity became known to the public, the whole world has had the chance to dig though his personal social media accounts and attempt to decipher his political ideology and motives. What we have learned may shock you. He is not one of us. He is a "typical" American with largely incoherent, and in many cases reactionary politics. For the most part, what is remarkable about the man himself is that he chose to take out his anger on a genuine enemy of the proletariat, instead of an elementary school.

This is a situation where the art must be separated from the artist. We do not condemn the attack, but as a role model, Luigi Mangione falls short. We do not expect perfection from revolutionary figures either, but we expect a modicum of revolutionary discipline. We expect them not simply to identify an unpopular element of society hitler-detector , but to clearly illuminate the causes of oppression and the means by which they are overcome. When we canonize revolutionary figures, we are holding them up as an example to be followed.

This is where things come back to rule 1. Mangione has a long social media history bearing a spectrum of reactionary viewpoints, and interacting positively with many powerful reactionary figures. While some commenters have referred to this as "nothing malicious," by lionizing this man we effectively deem this behavior acceptable, or at the very least, safe to ignore. This is the type of tailism which opens the door to making a space unsafe for marginalized people.

We're going to be more strict on moderating posts which do little more than lionize the shooter. There is plenty to be said about the unfolding events, the remarkably positive public reaction, how public reactions to "propaganda of the deed" may have changed since the historical epoch of its conception (and how the strategic hazards might not have), and many other aspects of the news without canonizing this man specifically. We can still dance on the graves of our enemies and celebrate their rediscovered fear and vulnerability without the vulgar revisionism needed to pretend this man is some sort of example of Marxist or Anarchist practice.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

This statement is appreciated thank you rat-salute-2

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Fuck you fed ass admins

How many figures that are praised here have problematic views? how many of those have those have a pinned post about their lionisation??

Luigi Mangione is a Hero, Unequivocally

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Literally following the CIA playbook on how to wreck nascent orgs by quashing any revolutionary potential with irrelevant discussions designed to waste time and sow discord

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (10 children)

mods better roll the tanks on the weirdos actually advocating for literal fascist tailism, this is actually getting ridiculous having to deal with this every time a struggle session happens. How can you only temp ban people for actual fascist opinions, these are subversive elements that NEED to be purged or they threaten the leftist foundations of the site. I dont care how many keyboard addicted losers get mad this is actually terrifying to watch something HAS to be done

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow you sure do have strong opinions for a user who just signed up 10 days ago 😒

If I were on the mod team, I would be cracking down on the obvious sock puppetry. But I’m not on the mod team, so let me mind my business. 💅🏻

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

He walked the walk without talking the talk.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

We must redeem luigi-dance's good name by sending a cosplayer with a backpack vacuum to new york to capture the CEO's soul.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This circles back to those big questions about “site culture.” But is Hexbear a site for leftist users to shitpost or is Hexbear a site for leftist shitposts?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

so if hexbear is just a shitposting forum it shouldn't matter if we are cool right? its not gonna contribute to the revolution or effect anything right?

ok then, this should be a safe space for poc where their comfort is prioritized. who cares about looking cool? who cares about appealing to the average American shithead if this is just a shitposting forum?

ok lets say hexbear is a very serious site that is going to influence American politics. ok (its not) but sure. then shouldn't we be developing a better politic. shouldn't we be holding ourselves to a higher standard then? shouldnt we be denouncing including bigots into "the left"

so yeah the whole "this is a shit posting forum we dont have to care about minorities here" doesn't make any sense

also, i fucking DARE anyone to scroll through the em poc com right now and tell me the poc hexbears are not deeply annoyed by yalls white bullshit

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

when are we just gonna make a struggle session mega. if we can have a news mega, we can have a struggle session mega imo

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

its not adventurism if you dont get caught trans-sad

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