One of those countries is actually dangerous.
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South Korea is an occupied territory of the US empire. Same for Israel. The empire’s territories fall first.
Explain how SK is occupied, and not a sovereign nation state.
- The US has 73 bases in South Korea.
- The US has 28,000+ military personnel occupying the country.
- South Korea has no jurisdiction to charge any of these soldiers, if they commit a crime in their country.
- South Korean military personnel are required to answer to US generals as a higher authority than their own.
We could also spend a while digging into the political and economic control the US exercises over SK, but a literal military occupation should suffice.
South Korean military personnel are required to answer to US generals as a higher authority than their own.
I've actually heard that the SK soldiers attached to the US military are mostly failsons of powerful people who pull strings to get them put in US formations for their mandatory service, because it's considered a cake-walk compared to the SK military.
How many American bases in Israel? 🫠
American and Israeli bases are one and the same. The entire country is a western occupation.
Not so fast! Korea's legislature stopped the president. Trump's royal bumlickers in congress will allow the United States to get to full fascism first.
USA! USA! USA!
It is almost adorable how people think America needs fascism to be a special form of a globally destructive hegemony.
You mean: "America first"
Life imitates art
He's already "joking" about a 3rd term.
Thing is, this clown doesn't joke.
My current conspiracy theory is that he is gonna get assassinated by the """far left""" (aka totally not the Republican party), which will trigger a full fascist takeover. He's too old for me to imagine him being able to make it through a full second term, and too unpredictable for Republican politicians to actually want him to be around; so the ideal situation would be to have him publicly assassinated and use that to drum up support for massive surveillance and restrictions on personal freedom.
The biggest joke of all is how American voters believe that there's any kind of active mainstream left in US politics.
I see it all as a play to push Vance forward. Whether taking over or just as the next candidate
His dad lived to 93 and his mum until 88. He might be with us for another couple of decades
Did they both exclusively eat McDonald's?
Yeah even if he doesn't get assassinated, I do think he's nothing more than an idiotic puppet for the real enemies to democracy to command.
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He has 2 options.
First is the obvious saying that there’s nothing stopping him from running for a 3rd term, and once again using Jim Crow era vote suppression and other slimy tricks to win again.
The second option is to just declare that presidency is a for-life position. He can do that, after all.
And he’s making that last part perfectly clear. He is above the law. There are no consequences for him breaking the law, and nothing stopping him from doing whatever he wants. The people who could are so polite that if words won’t stop him, they say more words at him. That’ll do it!
First is the obvious saying that there’s nothing stopping him from running for a 3rd term
The 22nd Amendment does. And it would take 38 states to vote to change that.
Isn’t there something about insurrectionists not being allowed to be president?
We’re about to allow an insurrectionist to be president.
Pretty sure no silly little written amendment on a piece of parchment will stop him. They sure haven’t before. Those rules only apply when HE wants them to.
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There's no way. I think he's legit too old, and he only needs 1 term to pardon himself and everyone he wants.
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For those out of the loop: What is going on in South Korea? Asking for a friend.
Are the pro-NK folks in the room with us now?
Seriously, are there really pro-NK supporters in SK? That seems ridiculous. Does that guy just really want to start a war with NK or smth?
Yes, there are Communist supporters of the DPRK in ROK, but that's not what's at play here. President Yoon, the Incel King, is accusing the liberals opposing him in Parliament of being Communist sympathizers. Yoon himself has been saber rattling against the DPRK as well, but that again is not the crux of the situation here.
Last government talked about reunification the same way US talks about a 2 state solution in Israel. He talked about this without occupying US approval as a long term goal. Yoon is full US puppet that wants war. Logic is similar to everyone who thinks a war on Russia is a bad idea can only be paid by Putin.
Other comments touched on it, but it makes more sense to look at them as pro reunification rather than pro NK. They're still nutty, but not quite as nutty as being pro NK. This is the same group desperately trying to downplay NK involvement in Russias invasion of Ukraine because calling it what it is might damage chances at reunification.
What are the benefits that come from unification, like for the SK people, other than just helping the struggling NK people?
Korea, over the last hundred years, has been victimized by Japanese and American Colonialism, Imperialism, and has been split in half arbitrarily, been the focus of a brutal proxy war, had the entire peninsula bombed into oblivion, and families torn apart. There is a deep cultural desire among both sides of the 38th parallel to reconcile in some fashion. Economically, it would be nice for both sides to engage in trade with each other, but it isn't the core of the matter, plus the DPRK is no longer in the serious "struggling phase" it was in in the 90s and 2000s, and is more like Cuba these days.
Families were split apart
In my complete lack of knowledge of SK politics it appears to be an unpopular president accused of corruption trying to stay in power to avoid... The said corruption chargers
Your “complete lack of knowledge” is apparently more than sufficient for you to see (kind of) what’s going on here. Have you ever considered inventing “psychic punditry”? We’ll ask you questions about things you know nothing about and you’ll give us answers. Kerching, all the way to the bank.
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Seriously, are there really pro-NK supporters in SK?
I'm definitely not saying it's a common thing at all but US and western media really, super play up the image of the DPRK and the tension on the peninsula.
And also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_(South_Korea,_2017)
They ran Kim Jae-Yeon for president. She once said:
On 4 June 2012 during an interview with KBS, the emcee asked her to confirm her view towards North Korea. She answered, "If a person does not want to recognise North Korean regime, it means that he/she wants a war with them". When the emcee also asked about what if North Korea attacks the South, she replied, "Still, we should not fight back."
She received 37 thousand votes. Not a lot, but they do exist.
Any more left than them tend to get banned under "National Security" laws.
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Seriously, are there really pro-NK supporters in SK?
They have been separated from their families by a military occupation from people thousands of miles away who drew an arbitrary border and put them under a dictatorship with the most brutal fascists the local population could produce. There's a reason in America they call it "the forgotten war". It's real bad what went down there and there's no moral equivalence with the two different sides.
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So...
What dry goods we buying? Anyone prepping?
NRG 5, lentils/beans/peas/chickpeas, pasta, tomatoe paste and vitamins. Always good to have enough of these for a few weeks, Trump or no Trump.
Lentils and beans, baybeee
Occupied korea has a history of that to be fair
While Israel is off camera to the right
More like .....
Didn't I hear about him getting a list of military folks who he wants to replace with those loyal to him.
That could be interpreted to mean that he started talking about it first.
That's basically what Saddam Hussein did.
I mean, he already talked about using the military against his political opponents and the mass deportation.
He doesn't need martial law, the SCOTUS already essentially declared the president a dictator.
"Dictator on Day One"
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