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Why you are wrong if you think Fukushima wastewater is normal (and should feel bad for falling for it) (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Tritium is a red herring strontium and carbon-14 are in this shit

This filtration method is not verified by the same testing as other projects releasing diluted tritium water. Those comparisons are inaccurate as this is a contamination cleanup site, not a nuclear power plant. Water was directly in contact with the molten core it's all nasty now 😓

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Can you please provide some source for the strontium and carbon-14? I want to do more reading about this. Besides the IAEA report, most testaments come from physicists, who are not marine biologist or ecologists.

I'm of the opinion that we shouldn't generally dump stuff into the ocean, it is not ours to touch, but instead home to a different world of vastly many species we don't know of. I think they are monitoring marine species over time, but I feel like this whole thing is misguided anthropocentrism and if in 2 or 3 decades, there is deviation to marine ecosystems, this whole ordeal was not worth it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Greenpeace Japan references (reference 2):

The opposition to the discharges includes the U.S. National Association of Marine Laboratories (NAML) consisting of 100 leading marine science institutions in the United States stated “The proposed release of this contaminated water is a transboundary and transgenerational issue of concern for the health of marine ecosystems and those whose lives and livelihoods depend on them.” – December 2022

This is accompanied with a link to the position paper

Further quote:

NAML members are unified in our concern about use of the oceans as a dumping ground for radioactively contaminated water and other pollutants because such actions can negatively affect the long-term health and sustainability of our planet.

We urge the Government of Japan to stop pursuing their planned and precedent-setting release of the radioactively contaminated water into the Pacific Ocean and to work with the broader scientific community to pursue other approaches that protect ocean life; human health; and those communities who depend on ecologically, economically, and culturally valuable marine resources.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IAEA is also a complete Western tool like almost all other international organizations

Again really weird how so many people chose to trust them here

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just let them revert to their old selves. Better they show their hand on this issue rather than a more directly damaging one

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Thank you, the verification results that Japan has released has a ton of holes in them. They won't let people verify all the processing and filtering that they've done with the wastewater

Weird how so many chose to easily believe the mainstream narrative on this issue

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be honest, no matter what reports are released about it, I will struggle to believe it's safe, on multiple levels.

I agree the tritium thing is just one number, and the contamination of this water will be very varied. Tritium and radioactivity are two metrics, and it probably takes at least 100 metrics seriously and publicly analyzed to meaningfully have ideas about its safety.
Even then, the people in charge of this testing have very vested interests in claiming it's totally okay no problems, so there's a good possibility they just lie.
Even with the best of intentions and analysis of many variables, nuclear reactions are complex and nobody can be sure what contaminants are there or not; There's always a bit of room for doubt unless we check every possible thing ever.