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[–] [email protected] 98 points 22 hours ago (18 children)

Micro$oft doesn't understand that these full-screen new Win11 PCs are actually Linux ads!

[–] [email protected] 35 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

This whole Win 11 mess is what finally convinced me to switch. I still can't get over that Settings hasn't reached feature parity with Control Panel yet. Figured if I have to re-learn how to do settings for the 10th time, I might as well do it in an OS that isn't shoving ads in my face.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago

I was simply trying to format a disk and so searched in the start bar expecting a suitable control panel item to pop up any would have happened in any sane era of windows. Instead fucking bing opened and it brought me back web results for "format disk" as well as unrelated ads. fucking web results!

gargh

[–] [email protected] 17 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Try Fedora! I find it it just works out of the box and the little I don't know I can Google, tho im Linux newby myself

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago

I think for people who like Out-Of-The-Box, Fedora is ideal. It’s the only OS I didn’t have to troubleshoot the Bluetooth immediately.

I put it on my grandmothers computer and she hasn’t had any major complaints in 2 years 🤞

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago

I have started switching my parents. Last year before all this really started getting crazy and I bought my mother a used HP elitebook laptop and set her up with Linux on it. Just to get her to test it out and use it. And replace her older laptops. There's very little she does that actually depends on windows. Everything tends to be in the browser. There was only one odd application that's odd even under windows. But it has an Android version that I got running with waydroid.

In the last month and I got my father a new used office PC that was about 10 Generations newer than what he had processor-wise. And set it up with Linux out of the box. He's been enjoying using it it's so much faster snappier and less spammy. And here this month when I have time. Getting my mother's desktop PC converted over to dual boot at least with Linux as primary. I've had far fewer tech support issues since I've done it too.

Between system 76, framework, tuxedo, and a few other sellers. There are actually a few options now offering Linux out of the box. Next time I buy a PC it will likely be from one of them depending upon what I'm looking for. And if anyone asked me for recommendations they will be the only ones I will recommend. Apart from ordering used office machines and repurposing them LOL. Unless you want to do current gym Triple A games at 4K etc. You can get six generation i7 systems for around $100 and use graphic cards for 50 to 100. And play most games and have a great time. It's actually kind of hilarious I have a couple of Verizon systems from the last 4 to 5 years. The system I spend more time on is a 6th generation i7 Lenovo business Tower. Largely because it's running Linux and the others are running Windows.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I am concerned that most users won't understand that either

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

They won't. The vast majority of consumers aren't even aware Linux exists.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 16 hours ago

I'm just curious how much more shitty they can make it. I laugh every time they announce some new "feature". Makes me appreciate Linux Mint more and more each time.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I don't need a new motherboard. TPM got accidentally turned off and I keep forgetting to turn it back on. Darn.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

My aging windows tower and retired work laptop were both struggling to keep up with my photo and video editing. Linux asnt an option for Capture One and Davinci Resolve, and the writing was on the wall for what Windows is becoming.

Combined with the failures in Intel Raptor/Alder lake CPUs, I took an unexpected leap into the realm of Apple silicon with an M4 Pro Mac Mini.

Apple is not a perfect company, but this new machine processes video faster than anything I've ever used, and for the first time since the 2010s it has replaceable (proprietary) storage.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And it's worked on my brother in law who's announced he's buying new PCs for the whole family specifically to upgrade to 11. jFC.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago

I recently installed Linux because windows pissed me off and I laughed out loud at this..

[–] [email protected] 27 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Windows 10 LTSC currently has an EoL date of 2027-01-12.

No store, no cortana, much less bullshit in general.
LTSC is the only current windows version I even remotely consider having.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Paying Microsoft more money so they can give you less Windows is a very Microsoft thing to do.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 21 hours ago

I stopped paying Microsoft a long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I'd bet this is pirateable tho

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Windows 10 LTSC (Long-Term Servicing Channel) is a specialized version of Windows 10 that's all about reliability and stability. It’s tailored for specific use cases like medical devices, ATMs, industrial systems, and other environments where updates could mess with critical operations.

Key Points About Windows 10 LTSC: Minimal Updates: LTSC skips the frequent feature updates you see with regular Windows 10 and sticks to just security updates and critical fixes. Each version gets 10 years of support—5 years mainstream and 5 years extended. Stripped-Down Version: This version ditches all the extra stuff like Cortana, the Microsoft Store, Edge, and bundled games, making it lightweight and focused. Stability Above All: It’s designed to be rock-solid and isn’t about chasing the latest features. Release Schedule: New LTSC versions come out every 2-3 years, tied to specific Windows 10 feature updates (like Windows 10 LTSC 2021). Who It's For: It’s for specialized devices and setups where you can’t afford sudden changes. It’s not something you’d typically use on your daily home or work PC. How You Get It: LTSC is available through volume licensing and is really meant for businesses and enterprises. Misconceptions: It’s not for regular use, like avoiding updates or keeping things ultra-simple on a personal PC. It doesn’t support a lot of modern hardware and features, so unless you have a very specific need, you’re better off sticking with the regular versions of Windows 10.

If you’re thinking about LTSC, make sure it actually fits what you’re trying to do—its limitations could end up being a headache if you’re not using it in the right way.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Funny, when I think of Windows, reliability and stability are the last things on my mind. I mean, if they could build a reliable release then why isn't that shipped with all computers? You know, like with linux, the stable version is also the current release. Basically your description makes it sound like what's really making Windows so unreliable is all the crapware that Microsoft forces down your throat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, exactly, because it’s all that crapware and bloatware that makes you inadvertently sign up for wholly unnecessary subscriptions to crap Services that nobody needs or wants. Plus all the advertisements. Lennox would seem to be a far better solution for a point of sale system or inventory management system or something like that

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Sounds like a great sales pitch... "PoS machines, but unlike Windows-based devices ours continue to work after the first six months!"

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

And if you use IoT LTSC, its even more lean

[–] [email protected] 13 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Has anybody found a way to turn Microsoft's ads off yet? I'm tired of dismissing their prompts to switch to Edge and Office 365 every few months.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, but you won't like to hear it...

[–] [email protected] 30 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I installed Linux one time and now im a cat girl

[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Don’t listen to them, I installed Linux multiple times and I‘m still a fat nerd

[–] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago

…go on…

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago

sigh

gets his Ventoy USB drive ready for a new ISO...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 18 hours ago

As an experiment I revoked the certificate that is used for code verification on the executable responsible for the popups. So far the only thing I broke was the .net installer. But no more pop-ups. :D

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

I run a local account and toggled off all the telemetry stuff during installation nine years ago. Never saw one of those. Didn't even get toggled on with updates. Only problem I had was Copilot getting added a few weeks ago. By that time, Win10 had become the compatibility fallback for Linux, though.

So, create a local account, go into Settings, and toggle off everything that could maybe be telemetry related.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'm about to rebuild my dev box and I'm seriously considering a Kinoite host with a Windows 10 LTS guest. Anyone have a good Fedora-centric guide to kvm?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

On my kinoite computer i just create a fedora distrobox container, install qemu on it, and boot my vms off that, works quite well, no fiddling with the filesystem or systemd services

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Ty! I'll do some research in that direction.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I hate how microsoft seems to think they own the term PC now and it can mean anything they want. Some of the "Copilot+ PCs" they're advertising on things like this have ARM CPUs which means they aren't PCs. I would even argue that a lot of x86 computers aren't PCs now because they only support UEFI booting so aren't PC compatible. They need to just call them computers or come up with a new term

[–] [email protected] 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't PC just mean personal computer though?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but ironically the PC was a reaction to the more authoritarian IBM server/terminal model. The PC was really about owning and being able to hack your own shit. It seems like cloud+device lockdown is just reinventing servers and terminals...

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Yup, I go out of my way to call any personal computer a PC. For example:

  • Macbook Pro PC running macOS for work
  • Thinkpad PC running Linux at home
  • desktop PC running Linux for gaming
  • desktop PC running Linux as a NAS
  • handheld PC running GrapheneOS for a phone
  • handheld PC running SteamOS for gaming
  • wearable PC running WearOS as a watch

They're all PCs, because I can run whatever I want on them. My Switch isn't a PC because I can't run whatever I want, but everything else in that list absolutely is. Yeah, I get weird looks sometimes, but I'm stubborn.

[–] bdonvr 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

have ARM CPUs which means they aren't PCs

Why on earth would architecture have anything to do with it?

only support UEFI booting so aren't PC compatible.

Oh wow, I don't think anyone using the term "PC" this century was referring to "IBM PC-Compatible" like it's 1981. The only vestages of that is that the term excludes Mac even today.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

They may not have realized it, but until UEFI-only computers started becoming common, people mostly were still effectively drawing the line at IBM compatibility

What's the fundamental difference between an Intel Macbook and my old 2018 Lenovo laptop? Either of them can run modern Windows, Linux, whatever. For most modern uses, they're basically equivalent. The one thing that makes the Lenovo different though is its firmware. The Lenovo has BIOS support and the Mac doesn't.

If you then add my current Framework laptop, which is UEFI-only, to the comparison though, it gets kind of fuzzy. It's clearly not a Mac, but what is there to really define it as a PC? It can't run MacOS, but that doesn't really work to separate it because plenty of PCs can run MacOS. It's not made by Apple, but if that's all it takes then is a Chromebook or one of the Talos POWER workstations a PC too? It's kind of hard to say the Framework is a PC without including so many other things that the term PC kind of loses all meaning.

I think the term PC has just outlived its usefulness and we need to move on to saying more specific things than that to describe computers. In most modern contexts, all that matters is what architecture a computer is and what operating systems will run on it, and PC just isn't really a great term to convey that information anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago

Microsoft bl: "Jeah Buy a 100$ License hehe. Oh what you thought The Operating System is then centered around you the paying customer? Jeaaaah nope! We are MICROSOFT!!!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago

Microsoft sucks, but surely they have to know that already

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