This is not the French claiming ownership of stuff, this is shitty naming on the part of Americans who thinks all european food is from France. Or who really wouldn't know the difference between Europe and France to begin with.
this post was submitted on 20 Nov 2024
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The most elegant and refined food, fries.
"We invented democracy, existentialism, and the ménage à trois."
"Oh man... Those are three pretty good things."
Democracy? Explain please, i thought the concept was way older than France.
I think they might’ve been referring to the left-right political spectrum. I believe the terminology comes from the seating layout of their post-revolution government.
In the first days, it wasn't left against right but rather bottom vs top. People went on top if they agreed more with the people that lived in the mountains in ancient Greece, and called themselft mountainers. They were more radical and aspired to direct democracy. People at the bottom wanted a more monarchical/centralised government. They ended up winning but we keep thinking about how great democracy could be if mountainers could emerge again
I was not aware of that - I assumed the terminology arose purely from the 1789 French National Assembly’s seating arrangement and had no precedent. I’ll dig into Wikipedia in a bit.
I’m sure the day of the mountainers will come again - I just hope they grasp the opportunity when it happens.
I'm just quoting Talladega Nights.
Let's go on strike
Well, technically the French did not found Britain - they were Normans.
Who were the Normans? They were Scandinavian vikings who had been raiding France for decades. Eventually the French king decided to offer them lands (now called Normandy) in France if they promised to stop raiding and instead protect the French coast.
Meh, this is largely a debate over semantics since the mere notion of a "French people" wouldn't have made sense at the time. "Frenchness" isn't an ethnicity, it's a mix of many different peoples that mixed and intertwined over the years (celts, romans, germanic tribes, immigrants from all over Europe...) and that eventually were all brought together as subjects of the french kingdom.
Normans weren't "french" in the modern sense of the word, but then again very few people in what would later become modern France would have at that time : they all would have considered themselves "Provençal", or "Breton", or "Lorrain" who just happened to live in a Duchy that swore fealty to the king of France.
All things considered, William the Conqueror was a lord of the french kingdom, swore fealty to the king of France and spoke French, so he was no less (but no more, granted) French than any other of his peers. Whether you want to call him french is up to you but is largely an anachronism
Normans were in France since at least 3 generation before the britain invasion. So they were clearly french culturally and they were fully merged with the locals genettically. Also the invading army had troops from nearby french region like Brittany or Anjou.
Sounds like all those others want to be French.
Je ne suis pas Francais, but I want to be!
Britain yet again something they just tacked onto near the end being Italian,German and Scandinavian before hand.