Hahahah! It'll never ever happen. He's going to live his life free and fulfilled with everything he ever wanted and with a perfect ending of his life. Because this is real life and the worst people have the best lives.
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I disagree. I am just a lowly worker bee, but I wouldn't switch with any of the billionaires. I have lots of things they could never even dream of:
- I know my wife loves me for me. Cause we got together when I was unemployed and facing homelessness.
- I know who my friends are.
- I don't have enemies.
- I can go outside and take a care-free walk in the sun wherever I want, not just in spaces I own.
Trump strikes me as a deeply unhappy man. Bezos and Musk, too.
All their money and influence can't buy them the feeling of being loved and respected for who they are.
At a party given by a billionaire on Shelter Island, Kurt Vonnegut informs his pal, Joseph Heller, that their host, a hedge fund manager, had made more money in a single day than Heller had earned from his wildly popular novel Catch-22 over its whole history.
Heller responds, “Yes, but I have something he will never have — enough.”
I love this quote, thank you for that.
Those are all things you care about, not what they care about.
Precisely. Those fuckers only care that the number goes up. They use everyone to only achieve that goal.
this is real life and the worst people have the best lives.
What is a 'good' life?
I don't know Donald Trump, of course, and I'm certainly not a supporter (of course), but I don't think he has a good life. Nevertheless, despite his public personality and everything he represents, I wish Trump to be happier in his quiet hours than I suspect. When the crowd has gone and he is alone with himself, I don't think Trump is happy person.
Ehhh he's made a lot of people angry. Enough to try to assassinate him. He might not get the happy ending you imagine.
I understand where you're coming from, though. It's a real shame that bad people can sometimes live better lives than good people. It doesn't seem very just.
Who? Those two props to help his campaign?
I suspect that even if this did happen, it would mostly just energize his base. It'd help him make a faux martyr of himself and rile up all of his worst supporters. It's not like he'd stay in that cell, after all.
Do you not arrest the Beer Hall Putsch perpetrator because it will rile up his supporters?
Trump is in a position where the rule of law scarcely affects him, regardless of what a judge sentences him to, because of the sheer quantity of political capital backing him. If this happened, he would spend a couple months in a cell and nothing else, at best. So if you think he should be arrested based exclusively on the law itself and no other reasons, sure, that's justified. But I'm talking impact, here.
I think the overall impact would be negative for the reasons given above. He'd face scarcely any truly proportionate punishment, would learn nothing, would lose nothing, and his supporters would become even more rabid. And all that would mean the political calculus for "is it worth it to commit fraud" either doesn't change or goes even further in favor of "yes." What's the point, then, besides to make us feel a bit better until he inevitably gets released?
Well, I don't know what his right-wing base would think, but whatever it is, would it be a reason to not put him in jail? Is the judicial system different if a convicted felon's base is energized?
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Is the judicial system different if a convicted felon’s base is energized?
Technically yes, since the convicted felon is the president-elect and has literally changed the power balance of the judicial system already.
Really though, it all comes down to risk. The more frenzied his base becomes, the more they let him get away with, and thus the more he will take advantage of that. Normally, I wouldn't care about this, because if Republicans aren't given this "feral consent" they'll manufacture it themselves. But I pause because the actual benefits of this are so slim as to measure up poorly against even this low-level con. I mean, he's in jail for a couple months — so what? Does that stop him from doing much of anything? Will he even care, when he knows he'll leave it with just as much power as he had when he entered?
Were it that he'd lost the election, I'd feel differently. But we don't live in a sane world. What do we actually get out of this?
If anything, him being jailed would just make it easier for his cabinet to push through their policies. With Trump around he might be incompetent enough to slow it down. With him out of the way? No shot.
And I say this as someone who really wants him to be imprisoned.