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I'll go first...

My favorite Fediverse platforms as of 2024

  1. Mastodon - my main social feed platform that first introduced me to the Fediverse in general.

  2. Lemmy - my second main social feed platform that originally substituted Reddit from years ago.

  3. Matrix protocol - communication platform I use to connect with users on the Lemmy instance I'm on

  4. Peertube - would love to get an account going and use it more often but still don't know how but there's FediVideo.

  5. Bookwyrm - Goodreads alternative that I signed up for that could use more work for a genuine reading tracker.

BONUS: my least favorite Fediverse platform lately

WordPress - because I used to run art blogs on there before I heard word about drama about the CEO of the corporation so I basically had to put out my last existing art blog...RIP.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Pretty sure Kbin is dead and gone, might want to update your tree.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 55 minutes ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

I wanna check out the fediverse blogging platforms, they seem interesting. Which one would you recommend? I looked at writefreely but it seems that none of the instances let you post as many blogs as you want unless you pay?

Also, is anyone working a fediverse IMDB/letterboxed alternative that uses OMDB dataset? Perhaps a Bookwyrm fork could make it not too hard to start.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago
  1. XMPP
  2. Lemmy
  3. Akkoma
  4. Peertube
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

There is Matrix but no XMPP :(

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

I really wanted to like bookwyrm and use it but it's just so bare bones. Instead, I switched from goodreads to StoryGraph like two years ago. I really like some of its features like content warnings, moods, very detailed stats of my reading habits, etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Without any particular order: Lemmy, Mastodon, Bookwyrm.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago

Lemmy. I love to read the posts and play the media.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago

Mastodon. Easily better than Twitter in every way, even when it wasn’t full of garbage. Can’t say the same for Lemmy, it’s not bad, and in some ways better but in some ways worse.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Nextcloud is federated? First time I hear about that.

For me it's Lemmy, without a doubt. Never used Twitter, tried mastodon to see what it's all about, didn't like it.

Matrix seems decent, but nobody I know uses it, and finding useful groups is painful, especially on other instances (servers, whatever they call them).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Also, I am confused at why nextcloud is at the intersection of networking, music, and multimedia.

Yes it technically has a video viewer and music player, but I would be very surprised if any person in the world right now is genuinely using it to post that content to the fediverse social-network style.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

A Roblox alternative in the fediverse.

Because I want to get off Roblox.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, Lemmy is the only one with content that appeals to me so far (at least to my knowledge, given the near-unsearchable nature of the fediverseso far). The platforms just aren't large enough.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Iirc Mastodon is about to add a global search function. I've never used it, nor even Twitter (back before it was cancelled into X), just passing on what I heard.

And PieFed and Mbin are also sort of "Lemmy" (though neither in that graphic that I saw:-).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

And PieFed and Mbin are also sort of “Lemmy” (though neither in that graphic that I saw:-).

It is quite an old graphic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

It's nice that our choices improve so much by new tools being built so rapidly!:-)

[–] [email protected] 43 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Lemmy, shortly followed by Piefed.

Will probably switch once Piefed gets mobile apps support and comments view

[–] [email protected] 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What's so good about PieFed?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

Much more advanced moderation tools: https://join.piefed.social/2024/06/22/piefed-features-for-growing-healthy-communities/

Actual instance blocking compared to the incomplete "mute communities" instance blocking on Lemmy

Development seems fasters than Lemmy, they are almost at feature parity while being much younger

[–] [email protected] 2 points 46 minutes ago

On the other hand, it has some weirdly opinionated features:

  • Hiding downvoted comments (mob rule)
  • Marking people with many downvotes as "low reputation". I get it, getting many downvotes is a bad sign but I don't think the software should try to make a ruling here, I think human moderators should look at the whole picture. It doesn't make you a bad person that people disagree with you.
  • Communities organized into "topics" - I'm not certain if these groupings are decided by the dev or the admin? Either way I find it a bit problematic.
  • Marking certain communities as "low effort" and not counting "reputation" for those. I don't feel like the software should be making this kind of value judgement.
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I looked thru this blog hopeful that there would be protection against mod abuse. Instead you can get banned for downvoting? I don't want to be looking over my back because some dipshit mod had a bad take. This is generating way too much analytical data on users. Communities don't need empowered super mods treating users like numbers on a spreadsheet. Lemmy for sure has problems (ml) but this isn't the answer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Lemmy admins can already see who downvotes what, I'm sure they already ban accounts who systematically downvote their communities content

It's a tool. If some admins power trip, well report them on [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago

Mods can also see votes in communities they moderate, lemmy-ui just doesn't show the option (and no other client, to my knowledge, has the feature).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

It doesn't need to be the answer. It just needs to be an answer for certain use cases. Both platforms can easily coexist. That's the beauty of federation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

But wont you lose like 99% of the user base? Or is it cross compatible?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

PieFed communicates with Lemmy. Same content, different platform. That's one awesome thing about federation.

There is also mbin (fork of kbin), and Sublinks, which is API compatible with Lemmy so should be able to use Lemmy apps with it (from memory, this is what Beehaw are hoping to move to).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Piefed just needs an api, then we can add supoort as app developers.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 13 hours ago

Lemmy, I like the simple post structure with all related commentary under the original submission.

Mastodon is fine for people who like it but it's hard to follow the thread of replies as every reply is its own individual post.

I guess the twatter format makes sense for dashing off quick messages but I find it hard to follow and it's difficult to find communities and topics of interest without also including a shit-ton of noise along with the signal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

Def Lemmy and Matrix

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

Lemmy. I've only tried mastodon other and it was mainly just people talking about politics. Which, fair enough Musk make it horrible, but I like to see shitposts and stuff like old twitter :(
I try to post little things aken to Tumblr shitposts but I've gotten a grand total of 0 likes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Mastodon has successfully replaced Twitter for me, so it's by far my favorite. It does still need better tools for dealing with large-scale posts and users, but overall it feels like it's actually doing the job I want done.

I want to like Piefed/Lemmy more than I actually do. The Fediverse answer to Reddit just doesn't feel ready for prime time yet. It's hard to find/connect with communities and the user base doesn't have that "can address basically any question" magic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I've tried mastodon and followed a couple people. But I never did Twitter either. Could you recommend how I could best use mastodon? Who to follow, or for to sort/search out whatever what's popular? I couldn't figure it out

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

Following hashtags is really powerful and useful on Mastodon. You can click any hashtag on a post to see other posts that use it, and if you like it there's a button you can click to start following that hashtag. You can also search for hashtags in the Explore section. Since there's no algorithm, hashtags are the primary way to get things that interest you into your feed.

@[email protected] posts tips on how to use Mastodon, so it's really helpful to follow as a newbie.

@[email protected] posts lists of interesting accounts on Mastodon, usually by topic. It's a good way to grow your follow list!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

https://nathanlesage.github.io/academics-on-mastodon/ Here's some lists in case you're into any niche topics.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

Right now the tools wouldn't support mainstream users anyway. They will only come after those are ready, and even then it will be a struggle.

But for now, e.g. a good fraction of the time on PieFed.social a notification won't take me to where it is intending to send me, bc of some prior comment being collapsed, hidden, buried in a thread, etc. - and this is the kind of stuff that will quickly send mainstream people packing.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

Mbin now!

God willing ernst comes back

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 14 hours ago (4 children)
  1. Lemmy
  2. Mastodon
  3. Pixelfed
  4. Various Misskey forks that are all about the same
  5. Peertube

Lemmy has eaten up just about all the time I used to spend on Mastodon. Pixelfed would be in the running for #1 if it hadn't become so vaporware-y in the last few months.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

Lemmy of course. I love the forum format and it's a great place to fediverse content from another plateforme. I post here with alt on Bookwyrm, Forkkey and PixelFed. I can't wait to share a Loop on my favorite community. But to read content from all over the fediverse, it is best to have an account on the twittoverse. I use Sharkey. I can access so much content that's not on Lemmy. It is much less of an echo chamber plus there is lots of people and I can still post to Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Mine is…..

  1. Wafrn (endless customisations unlike Misskey and Sharkey) and has react buttons too with extra features such as anonymous questions etc. Basically Tumblr but way better and FOSS too.

  2. Mastodon, very stable, great way to find out current events with minimal reactive posts etc. It just works.

  3. Mbin, a very much more stable and regularly updated fork of kbin, and getting the best of both worlds without having to use Lemmy, due to the problematic nature of Lemmy creators.

  4. BookWyrm, ethical version of GoodReads (and gives you control to add books that are not on the system, enhancing your experience and overall much better than GoodReads imo.

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