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[–] 174 points 2 years ago (10 children)

When Harris was nominated, I told a friend of mine that my biggest fear was it was going to energize racists and sexists because she was black and a woman. I though she was great candidate, but the level of racism and sexism in this county is beyond insane.

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  • [–] 84 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Well it's a good thing your worries were unfounded then because Trump got 72 million votes in 2020, and as of right now he's got those same 72 million votes in 2024. 10 million or so democrats sat out this election compared to 2020 and that's why Harris lost.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago

    It was actually because they gaslit people into believing that Biden was a competent candidate until like 3 months before the damn election.

    THEN didn't even hold a primary.

    And then let Kamala Harris completely train wreck the campaign and say shit like 18-24 year olds were stupid (notice how most of those votes from men for trump were around that age?) And sure, the video was taken out of context but she did say it and these dumb fucks didn't care what the context was when they see that clip droning on their TikToks and shit.

    America does have a racism and sexism problem but to tell yourself that that is the only reason she lost this election would be lying to yourself in a very major way.

    I did vote for her too, btw. First time I ever voted. But Jesus Christ the democrats just seem like they don't want to win at this point.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Thankfully it looks like that did not happen. So far Trump got less votes than he did in 2020. It's just that Harris did not manage to get the democratic voter base off the couch.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago

    People keep saying this but they haven't finished counting the votes. In California alone only 55% of votes were counted and he had 4,000,000+ votes there. The remaining votes could easily put him past his 2020 total.

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    [–] 106 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (44 children)

    This isn't going to be popular, but part of the problem is not acknowledging that 42%. It's fucking insulting, frankly. Plenty of women voted for the bear.

    EDIT: In light of reports of tons of guys saying "your body my choice" and shit, I actually regret writing this & everything below.

    Like, what the fuck, boys?

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  • [–] 83 points 2 years ago (43 children)

    52% of white women voted for trump.

    Chances are that many of the people crying about men voting trump, are part of a demographic that mostly voted trump.

    Trump apparently won the popular vote anyway. Most of everyone who voted, voted trump. But let's focus on men and then be surprised that young men who are very insecure about themselves anyway, feel attacked by the left and choose the right.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (24 children)

    Please don't get me confused, I don't think it's good this many men voted for The Stain. Also, 52% of WHITE women, but I bet if you combined ALL women, that number would drop dramatically.

    My broader point is, IMO, that 42% never gets talked about so why would it grow, yeah?

    Or, put another way, when I talk about women, who are my allies against the Patriarchy, I speak of why I like them (because I do, I LOVE women). They are resilient, strong, resourceful, grounded, etc, all the good stuff, and I try to include all women in that, they are my allies. I try NOT to focus on trad wives, manipulators, "gold diggers", abusers, weirdos like MTG or Caitlyn Jenner , you know, bad people (and there are plenty).

    But when I hear about men in the ally space, it feels like I hear all about how awful and dangerous we are and that's it. And there's ALWAYS this group of guys willing to go along with it and point and go "yeah, we totally suck! You guys saying we don't are the real problem!" But, how is that motivating to anyone? It makes me upset, anyways. Maybe I'm just a big emotional baby, who knows?

    Anyways, I'm blabbing. Bad habit of mine.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I would rather kill myself than vote for trump, who is a sexist, racist and fascist.

    And I am with you. The boarder left is in denial that they are alienating especially young men with that behavior.

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  • [–] 82 points 2 years ago (21 children)

    WHITE WOMEN CHOSE THE DUDE THIS ELECTION AND THE DUDE WAS TRUMP

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    [–] 76 points 2 years ago (18 children)

    God, the whole of Lemmy is such a meme right now; the majority of women voted Trump as well!

    Lmao!...

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    [–] 75 points 2 years ago

    That seems bang on average for the entire country. If anything that suggests to me that men in that age group are less susceptible to trumps influence since other age ranges of men were in the 60s and 70s

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  • [–] 66 points 2 years ago (23 children)

    "Boomers are turning this country to shit!"

    GenX:

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I mean, it sounds to me like men also chose the bear. Why did they choose the bear, is it because they're stupid? Probably not, they likely just thought their odds were better with the bear.

    Dropping the metaphor, and looking in the cold light of day, those young men saw a better future under Trumpler than Harris. Articles signaled this well before, and nothing was done to address it.

    Will their future be better - probably not. Can they be made to think their future is better, that's a tough one. Remember, you can trick one group of people into thinking they have more rights by stripping the rights of those around them.

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    [–] 37 points 2 years ago (69 children)

    Well, there's still 42% who voted for Harris. What's wrong with them?

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    That is women literally choosing the bear (by not voting or who voted Trump, same thing).

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Check the statistics for white women :)

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    If no woman will consent to a guy like that, he’ll just vote for the candidate who promises to abolish consent

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    2020 election.

    Its cultural, men are more likely to be Republicans. One day this will change

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    I love how so many men in the comments are butt hurt by this comparison. Almost as if it hit the nail right on the head.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    You are aware that 52% of white women voted for trump and that he won the popular vote by nearly 5 million votes (72,656,451 for trump, 67,978,280 for Harris) between both that is 140,634,731 votes. So 1% would be 1406347.31. so trump won by about 3% popular vote.

    Blaming specifically men and exclusively, is what pisses them off.

    America is sexist and racist.

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I am both disappointed and not surprised that half of young men voted for him

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Half of everybody voted for him. This is such a ridiculous post, those are barely off the numbers for the whole election. Which is ridiculous, but why single out this group?

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Just give up humans, you have no future, you are not viable as a species.

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If there isn't a movie yet where a woman meets a strange man in the middle of the woods and he starts acting creepy and she gets scared, then she sees a bear and decides to chance it with the bear... and then the bear runs past her and mauls the creepy guy-

    Well there should be.

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