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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 66 points 2 years ago (2 children) "Boomers are turning this country to shit!" GenX: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (2 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (3 children) Wish this would be adjusted for age. Obviously someone who had more time to accumulate wealth will have more wealth. The real question is how much wealth does each generation have at the same age. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] uis@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then why Silent has so little? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* It's extremely simple. How many people are alive born before 1946? Not many compared to the other generations. Their wealth went to their boomer children. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago I am working off of one bar and have no electricity but this research has been done. I think pew has it, but it might be at ITAR permalink fedilink source parent [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It also matters at the time, as that's a form of power. Guess who can donate seriously to political campaigns, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) True. Question is a bit how much wealth is in things and how much in money - some boomer owning a nice house and a vacation home is very wealthy, but might not necessarily have the liquidity to donate if they live on some relatively small pension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://www.statista.com/statistics/1376620/wealth-distribution-for-the-us/ (and time, don't forget time) permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well this here GenXer wishes he could have some of that wealth. Unless 'have a mortgage' constitutes wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Mortgage? No. Equity in a house? Yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Equity in a house is not all that helpful when the house is in an undesirable town in an undesirable state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) My point is just that a mortgage is debt while equity is an asset, so I don't think you should consider a mortgage wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh, I see. Yes, I agree. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It actually does. The amount paid off at least, since the property is the wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Considering how little we're going to get back when we sell it within the next few months before fleeing to the UK, I would say that I don't think it's wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Isn't the UK politics pretty similar to US? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the sense that the UK isn't likely to force my queer daughter into a conversion camp in the near future, no. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I would say it's roughly equally likely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right, because Labour, (and the Tories and the Lib Dems) are all totally homophobic just like Republicans. What the fuck are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm just saying that I think this particular fear you have is roughly equally likely. Maybe the likelihood of it happening in the US is double or triple than the UK, but I think that would put the likelihood only from 0.01% to 0.03%, so basically the same. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Did you listen to the King's speech this year? I doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech lays out government policy? I also doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech this year included making conversion therapy illegal? I really doubt it. Meanwhile, in the U.S., there's project 2025 and prominent republicans literally calling for trans genocide. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won’t do it. Yeah, remember how that happened in Germany in the 1930s when queer people were put in camps and then there was a big riot and they all got freed? No, neither do I. Remember how it wasn't even legal to be queer in America until 2003? I do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_the_United_States You're picturing some movies instead of laws, police, prisons. Perhaps they'll take some inspiration from Putin: https://theconversation.com/putins-russia-first-arrests-under-new-anti-lgbt-laws-mark-new-era-of-repression-226864 These are the legal approaches. The other one is violent assholes murdering queers and then getting away with it somehow. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense You need to broaden your understanding of dystopian horizons. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 2 years ago This is why I've been saying that we can't expect the population to simply age out of conservatism. If that worked, it would have happened generations ago. Perhaps as far back as "cooking food over fire is making kids these days weak". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (2 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (3 children) Wish this would be adjusted for age. Obviously someone who had more time to accumulate wealth will have more wealth. The real question is how much wealth does each generation have at the same age. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] uis@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then why Silent has so little? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* It's extremely simple. How many people are alive born before 1946? Not many compared to the other generations. Their wealth went to their boomer children. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago I am working off of one bar and have no electricity but this research has been done. I think pew has it, but it might be at ITAR permalink fedilink source parent [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It also matters at the time, as that's a form of power. Guess who can donate seriously to political campaigns, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) True. Question is a bit how much wealth is in things and how much in money - some boomer owning a nice house and a vacation home is very wealthy, but might not necessarily have the liquidity to donate if they live on some relatively small pension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://www.statista.com/statistics/1376620/wealth-distribution-for-the-us/ (and time, don't forget time) permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well this here GenXer wishes he could have some of that wealth. Unless 'have a mortgage' constitutes wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Mortgage? No. Equity in a house? Yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Equity in a house is not all that helpful when the house is in an undesirable town in an undesirable state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) My point is just that a mortgage is debt while equity is an asset, so I don't think you should consider a mortgage wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh, I see. Yes, I agree. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It actually does. The amount paid off at least, since the property is the wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Considering how little we're going to get back when we sell it within the next few months before fleeing to the UK, I would say that I don't think it's wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Isn't the UK politics pretty similar to US? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the sense that the UK isn't likely to force my queer daughter into a conversion camp in the near future, no. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I would say it's roughly equally likely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right, because Labour, (and the Tories and the Lib Dems) are all totally homophobic just like Republicans. What the fuck are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm just saying that I think this particular fear you have is roughly equally likely. Maybe the likelihood of it happening in the US is double or triple than the UK, but I think that would put the likelihood only from 0.01% to 0.03%, so basically the same. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Did you listen to the King's speech this year? I doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech lays out government policy? I also doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech this year included making conversion therapy illegal? I really doubt it. Meanwhile, in the U.S., there's project 2025 and prominent republicans literally calling for trans genocide. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won’t do it. Yeah, remember how that happened in Germany in the 1930s when queer people were put in camps and then there was a big riot and they all got freed? No, neither do I. Remember how it wasn't even legal to be queer in America until 2003? I do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_the_United_States You're picturing some movies instead of laws, police, prisons. Perhaps they'll take some inspiration from Putin: https://theconversation.com/putins-russia-first-arrests-under-new-anti-lgbt-laws-mark-new-era-of-repression-226864 These are the legal approaches. The other one is violent assholes murdering queers and then getting away with it somehow. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense You need to broaden your understanding of dystopian horizons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (3 children) Wish this would be adjusted for age. Obviously someone who had more time to accumulate wealth will have more wealth. The real question is how much wealth does each generation have at the same age. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] uis@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then why Silent has so little? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* It's extremely simple. How many people are alive born before 1946? Not many compared to the other generations. Their wealth went to their boomer children. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago I am working off of one bar and have no electricity but this research has been done. I think pew has it, but it might be at ITAR permalink fedilink source parent [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It also matters at the time, as that's a form of power. Guess who can donate seriously to political campaigns, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) True. Question is a bit how much wealth is in things and how much in money - some boomer owning a nice house and a vacation home is very wealthy, but might not necessarily have the liquidity to donate if they live on some relatively small pension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://www.statista.com/statistics/1376620/wealth-distribution-for-the-us/ (and time, don't forget time) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] uis@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then why Silent has so little? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* It's extremely simple. How many people are alive born before 1946? Not many compared to the other generations. Their wealth went to their boomer children. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* It's extremely simple. How many people are alive born before 1946? Not many compared to the other generations. Their wealth went to their boomer children. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago I am working off of one bar and have no electricity but this research has been done. I think pew has it, but it might be at ITAR permalink fedilink source parent
[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It also matters at the time, as that's a form of power. Guess who can donate seriously to political campaigns, for example. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) True. Question is a bit how much wealth is in things and how much in money - some boomer owning a nice house and a vacation home is very wealthy, but might not necessarily have the liquidity to donate if they live on some relatively small pension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://www.statista.com/statistics/1376620/wealth-distribution-for-the-us/ (and time, don't forget time) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) True. Question is a bit how much wealth is in things and how much in money - some boomer owning a nice house and a vacation home is very wealthy, but might not necessarily have the liquidity to donate if they live on some relatively small pension. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://www.statista.com/statistics/1376620/wealth-distribution-for-the-us/ (and time, don't forget time) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://www.statista.com/statistics/1376620/wealth-distribution-for-the-us/ (and time, don't forget time) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well this here GenXer wishes he could have some of that wealth. Unless 'have a mortgage' constitutes wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Mortgage? No. Equity in a house? Yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Equity in a house is not all that helpful when the house is in an undesirable town in an undesirable state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) My point is just that a mortgage is debt while equity is an asset, so I don't think you should consider a mortgage wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh, I see. Yes, I agree. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It actually does. The amount paid off at least, since the property is the wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Considering how little we're going to get back when we sell it within the next few months before fleeing to the UK, I would say that I don't think it's wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Isn't the UK politics pretty similar to US? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the sense that the UK isn't likely to force my queer daughter into a conversion camp in the near future, no. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I would say it's roughly equally likely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right, because Labour, (and the Tories and the Lib Dems) are all totally homophobic just like Republicans. What the fuck are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm just saying that I think this particular fear you have is roughly equally likely. Maybe the likelihood of it happening in the US is double or triple than the UK, but I think that would put the likelihood only from 0.01% to 0.03%, so basically the same. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Did you listen to the King's speech this year? I doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech lays out government policy? I also doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech this year included making conversion therapy illegal? I really doubt it. Meanwhile, in the U.S., there's project 2025 and prominent republicans literally calling for trans genocide. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won’t do it. Yeah, remember how that happened in Germany in the 1930s when queer people were put in camps and then there was a big riot and they all got freed? No, neither do I. Remember how it wasn't even legal to be queer in America until 2003? I do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_the_United_States You're picturing some movies instead of laws, police, prisons. Perhaps they'll take some inspiration from Putin: https://theconversation.com/putins-russia-first-arrests-under-new-anti-lgbt-laws-mark-new-era-of-repression-226864 These are the legal approaches. The other one is violent assholes murdering queers and then getting away with it somehow. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense You need to broaden your understanding of dystopian horizons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Mortgage? No. Equity in a house? Yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Equity in a house is not all that helpful when the house is in an undesirable town in an undesirable state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) My point is just that a mortgage is debt while equity is an asset, so I don't think you should consider a mortgage wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh, I see. Yes, I agree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Equity in a house is not all that helpful when the house is in an undesirable town in an undesirable state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) My point is just that a mortgage is debt while equity is an asset, so I don't think you should consider a mortgage wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh, I see. Yes, I agree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) My point is just that a mortgage is debt while equity is an asset, so I don't think you should consider a mortgage wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh, I see. Yes, I agree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Oh, I see. Yes, I agree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It actually does. The amount paid off at least, since the property is the wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Considering how little we're going to get back when we sell it within the next few months before fleeing to the UK, I would say that I don't think it's wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Isn't the UK politics pretty similar to US? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the sense that the UK isn't likely to force my queer daughter into a conversion camp in the near future, no. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I would say it's roughly equally likely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right, because Labour, (and the Tories and the Lib Dems) are all totally homophobic just like Republicans. What the fuck are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm just saying that I think this particular fear you have is roughly equally likely. Maybe the likelihood of it happening in the US is double or triple than the UK, but I think that would put the likelihood only from 0.01% to 0.03%, so basically the same. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Did you listen to the King's speech this year? I doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech lays out government policy? I also doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech this year included making conversion therapy illegal? I really doubt it. Meanwhile, in the U.S., there's project 2025 and prominent republicans literally calling for trans genocide. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won’t do it. Yeah, remember how that happened in Germany in the 1930s when queer people were put in camps and then there was a big riot and they all got freed? No, neither do I. Remember how it wasn't even legal to be queer in America until 2003? I do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_the_United_States You're picturing some movies instead of laws, police, prisons. Perhaps they'll take some inspiration from Putin: https://theconversation.com/putins-russia-first-arrests-under-new-anti-lgbt-laws-mark-new-era-of-repression-226864 These are the legal approaches. The other one is violent assholes murdering queers and then getting away with it somehow. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense You need to broaden your understanding of dystopian horizons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Considering how little we're going to get back when we sell it within the next few months before fleeing to the UK, I would say that I don't think it's wealth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Isn't the UK politics pretty similar to US? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the sense that the UK isn't likely to force my queer daughter into a conversion camp in the near future, no. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I would say it's roughly equally likely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right, because Labour, (and the Tories and the Lib Dems) are all totally homophobic just like Republicans. What the fuck are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm just saying that I think this particular fear you have is roughly equally likely. Maybe the likelihood of it happening in the US is double or triple than the UK, but I think that would put the likelihood only from 0.01% to 0.03%, so basically the same. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Did you listen to the King's speech this year? I doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech lays out government policy? I also doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech this year included making conversion therapy illegal? I really doubt it. Meanwhile, in the U.S., there's project 2025 and prominent republicans literally calling for trans genocide. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won’t do it. Yeah, remember how that happened in Germany in the 1930s when queer people were put in camps and then there was a big riot and they all got freed? No, neither do I. Remember how it wasn't even legal to be queer in America until 2003? I do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_the_United_States You're picturing some movies instead of laws, police, prisons. Perhaps they'll take some inspiration from Putin: https://theconversation.com/putins-russia-first-arrests-under-new-anti-lgbt-laws-mark-new-era-of-repression-226864 These are the legal approaches. The other one is violent assholes murdering queers and then getting away with it somehow. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense You need to broaden your understanding of dystopian horizons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Isn't the UK politics pretty similar to US? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the sense that the UK isn't likely to force my queer daughter into a conversion camp in the near future, no. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I would say it's roughly equally likely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right, because Labour, (and the Tories and the Lib Dems) are all totally homophobic just like Republicans. What the fuck are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm just saying that I think this particular fear you have is roughly equally likely. Maybe the likelihood of it happening in the US is double or triple than the UK, but I think that would put the likelihood only from 0.01% to 0.03%, so basically the same. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Did you listen to the King's speech this year? I doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech lays out government policy? I also doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech this year included making conversion therapy illegal? I really doubt it. Meanwhile, in the U.S., there's project 2025 and prominent republicans literally calling for trans genocide. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won’t do it. Yeah, remember how that happened in Germany in the 1930s when queer people were put in camps and then there was a big riot and they all got freed? No, neither do I. Remember how it wasn't even legal to be queer in America until 2003? I do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_the_United_States You're picturing some movies instead of laws, police, prisons. Perhaps they'll take some inspiration from Putin: https://theconversation.com/putins-russia-first-arrests-under-new-anti-lgbt-laws-mark-new-era-of-repression-226864 These are the legal approaches. The other one is violent assholes murdering queers and then getting away with it somehow. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense You need to broaden your understanding of dystopian horizons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the sense that the UK isn't likely to force my queer daughter into a conversion camp in the near future, no. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I would say it's roughly equally likely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right, because Labour, (and the Tories and the Lib Dems) are all totally homophobic just like Republicans. What the fuck are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm just saying that I think this particular fear you have is roughly equally likely. Maybe the likelihood of it happening in the US is double or triple than the UK, but I think that would put the likelihood only from 0.01% to 0.03%, so basically the same. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Did you listen to the King's speech this year? I doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech lays out government policy? I also doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech this year included making conversion therapy illegal? I really doubt it. Meanwhile, in the U.S., there's project 2025 and prominent republicans literally calling for trans genocide. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won’t do it. Yeah, remember how that happened in Germany in the 1930s when queer people were put in camps and then there was a big riot and they all got freed? No, neither do I. Remember how it wasn't even legal to be queer in America until 2003? I do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_the_United_States You're picturing some movies instead of laws, police, prisons. Perhaps they'll take some inspiration from Putin: https://theconversation.com/putins-russia-first-arrests-under-new-anti-lgbt-laws-mark-new-era-of-repression-226864 These are the legal approaches. The other one is violent assholes murdering queers and then getting away with it somehow. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense You need to broaden your understanding of dystopian horizons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I would say it's roughly equally likely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right, because Labour, (and the Tories and the Lib Dems) are all totally homophobic just like Republicans. What the fuck are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm just saying that I think this particular fear you have is roughly equally likely. Maybe the likelihood of it happening in the US is double or triple than the UK, but I think that would put the likelihood only from 0.01% to 0.03%, so basically the same. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Did you listen to the King's speech this year? I doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech lays out government policy? I also doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech this year included making conversion therapy illegal? I really doubt it. Meanwhile, in the U.S., there's project 2025 and prominent republicans literally calling for trans genocide. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won’t do it. Yeah, remember how that happened in Germany in the 1930s when queer people were put in camps and then there was a big riot and they all got freed? No, neither do I. Remember how it wasn't even legal to be queer in America until 2003? I do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_the_United_States You're picturing some movies instead of laws, police, prisons. Perhaps they'll take some inspiration from Putin: https://theconversation.com/putins-russia-first-arrests-under-new-anti-lgbt-laws-mark-new-era-of-repression-226864 These are the legal approaches. The other one is violent assholes murdering queers and then getting away with it somehow. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense You need to broaden your understanding of dystopian horizons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right, because Labour, (and the Tories and the Lib Dems) are all totally homophobic just like Republicans. What the fuck are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Azzu@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm just saying that I think this particular fear you have is roughly equally likely. Maybe the likelihood of it happening in the US is double or triple than the UK, but I think that would put the likelihood only from 0.01% to 0.03%, so basically the same. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Did you listen to the King's speech this year? I doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech lays out government policy? I also doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech this year included making conversion therapy illegal? I really doubt it. Meanwhile, in the U.S., there's project 2025 and prominent republicans literally calling for trans genocide. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won’t do it. Yeah, remember how that happened in Germany in the 1930s when queer people were put in camps and then there was a big riot and they all got freed? No, neither do I. Remember how it wasn't even legal to be queer in America until 2003? I do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_the_United_States You're picturing some movies instead of laws, police, prisons. Perhaps they'll take some inspiration from Putin: https://theconversation.com/putins-russia-first-arrests-under-new-anti-lgbt-laws-mark-new-era-of-repression-226864 These are the legal approaches. The other one is violent assholes murdering queers and then getting away with it somehow. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense You need to broaden your understanding of dystopian horizons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Azzu@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm just saying that I think this particular fear you have is roughly equally likely. Maybe the likelihood of it happening in the US is double or triple than the UK, but I think that would put the likelihood only from 0.01% to 0.03%, so basically the same. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Did you listen to the King's speech this year? I doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech lays out government policy? I also doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech this year included making conversion therapy illegal? I really doubt it. Meanwhile, in the U.S., there's project 2025 and prominent republicans literally calling for trans genocide. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won’t do it. Yeah, remember how that happened in Germany in the 1930s when queer people were put in camps and then there was a big riot and they all got freed? No, neither do I. Remember how it wasn't even legal to be queer in America until 2003? I do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_the_United_States You're picturing some movies instead of laws, police, prisons. Perhaps they'll take some inspiration from Putin: https://theconversation.com/putins-russia-first-arrests-under-new-anti-lgbt-laws-mark-new-era-of-repression-226864 These are the legal approaches. The other one is violent assholes murdering queers and then getting away with it somehow. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense You need to broaden your understanding of dystopian horizons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Did you listen to the King's speech this year? I doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech lays out government policy? I also doubt it. Did you know that the King's speech this year included making conversion therapy illegal? I really doubt it. Meanwhile, in the U.S., there's project 2025 and prominent republicans literally calling for trans genocide. Forcing queers (~8% of the population) in re-education camps would incite riots. They won’t do it. Yeah, remember how that happened in Germany in the 1930s when queer people were put in camps and then there was a big riot and they all got freed? No, neither do I. Remember how it wasn't even legal to be queer in America until 2003? I do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_the_United_States You're picturing some movies instead of laws, police, prisons. Perhaps they'll take some inspiration from Putin: https://theconversation.com/putins-russia-first-arrests-under-new-anti-lgbt-laws-mark-new-era-of-repression-226864 These are the legal approaches. The other one is violent assholes murdering queers and then getting away with it somehow. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense You need to broaden your understanding of dystopian horizons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 2 years ago This is why I've been saying that we can't expect the population to simply age out of conservatism. If that worked, it would have happened generations ago. Perhaps as far back as "cooking food over fire is making kids these days weak". permalink fedilink source parent