Religion is always trash. No way around that and even as open mind leftists or wannabe leftists we have to recognize that. However the worst elements of religion tend to moderate with development something the Muslim world has been denied by the great Satan 
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There is a specter haunting this thread: the specter of Sam Harris style "not Islamophobic, 
" Reddit New Atheism.
it haunts the whole website!
the specter of Sam Harris style "not Islamophobic,
I hate people like this, so, so much.
Feel free to square that circle and explain how religion and Marxism are able to go hand in hand. Marxism is a material analysis of the world. Religion is not and quite the opposite.
Marx called religion the soul of soulless conditions.
Sanctimoniously looking down on downtrodden people before anything about those conditions can even begin to improve must feel good, but it doesn't win anyone over that isn't already tipping fedoras at you.
Religion is literally used to maintain dominance over people and prevent condition from improving
Your smug bloviating is "literally" alienating and pushing people away that are so crushed by their present conditions that saying "um actually religion bad" is just an insufferable liberal-coded flex on them that makes them hate you more.
Plenty of New Atheists in the present day lick corporate boots and they are certainly contributing to a worsening of conditions, no formal religion required.
Have you fucking read Marx? The post-religious world comes a long time later and your self-congratulatory present-day smugness has no function or purpose in it.
"Hah, fine, I'll read Marx"
Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions.
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and that's why i left the Left"
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Ok I just thought about it some more, although I somewhat agree with your sentiment and think you have good intentions, I think it is quite unfair to say "religion is always trash" and vehemently disagree with that belief. We have users here who are Palestinian muslims currently facing a genocide *in no small part because of their faith, which gives people the will to continue in the face of unspeakable horrors, is definetely not "trash". We in the west have to remember that just because our own governments are insane genocidal christian/jewish extremists doesn't mean we can solipsisticly apply this judgement to everyone else, including the people who they are genociding. We should always remember to think of others and be considerate.
Fair enough. Trash isn't the best word to use when discussing a sensitive topic.
Agreed, also wouldn't say its a discrete abstract "sensitive topic", its moreso an acknowledgement of the sheer gravity of the current ongoing situation, the reality of the horrific genocide that our governments are bankrolling right at this very moment, the mass death and suffering that the west has failed to prevent. Even as we speak there are innocent people murdered and tortured by the enemy, whose loved ones may be posting here as well. We in the west need to discard condescending attitudes, come down from the ivory tower and return to reality so we can stop this genocide.
Trash isn't the best word to use when discussing a sensitive topic.
Sounds like "I am sorry if you are offended" weasel words.
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and see how long you can stand there smirking at them before you got hurt.
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I also require reeducation
A Korean revert I’ve watched on YouTube just dropped a transphobic short and a video on “why lgbt is forbidden is islam” that I haven’t watched yet. It’s disappointing, but not uncommon with my minimal exposure. Here is the content in question:
https://youtube.com/shorts/TYo9GTDK6n4
I understand people’s historical defensiveness given how Islam has been a punching bag for the west for centuries. But this guy isn’t a wahhabist, and still has these ideas. So what gives? Just using religion to justify preexisting social conservatism or does Islam provide foundation for these beliefs?