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[–] 57 points 2 years ago
[–] 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

On one hand, fuck Russia.

On the other hand...

The court imposed a fine of 100 thousand rubles ($1,025) per day, with the total fine doubling every week.

...I really wish western governments had the balls to impose fines like this on tech companies when they engage in actual fuckery.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That "fuckery" was blocking Russian propaganda on YouTube due to US sanctions.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah I know; I wrote "actual" fuckery to contrast with that.

    I would like to see Google punished with weekly-doubling fines for the things it actually deserves to be punished for, as opposed to blocking Russian propaganda, which it does not deserve to be punished for.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If you're the Russian state then Google deserves this.

    What you want is authoritarianism when it suites you, and liberalism when it doesn't.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Nah, fuck that nonsense. Objective reality exists and moral relativism is bullshit.

    Whether Google deserves to be punished for something depends entirely on what that something actually was, and the notion that there's some kind of hypocrisy in agreeing with punishment in one circumstance but not another is absolutely ridiculous.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago

    Nah, fuck that nonsense. Objective reality exists and moral relativism is bullshit.

    Even if it's true - you aren't the one deciding what Google "deserves" or not now are you? So you need to convince others of your "objective reality".

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Fines need to be payable, otherwise they are a joke. A large chunk of global revenue GDPR-style is reasonable because it really hurts the profits but it's still small enough that the company can pay it, and it will incentivize the company to change their practices. If the company (or anyone) gets a fine they can't pay they will just ignore it, so it only makes sense if you want to kick out the company out of your country, in which case you should skip the extra steps.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago

    russia is such a deeply unserious country

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago

    "we need money to fund our special military operation kthxbye"

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    L0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000L

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    May as well throw in a unicorn and two perpetual motion machines.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Headline writer should have learned scientific notation

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Russia is doing so well with its invasion that it can issue multi-million dollar fines.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    Yeah? Well I fine Russia $20 Googol Plex Decillion!

    So there!

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's getting close to googleplex rubles!

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)
  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    To put that into perspective, the World Bank estimates global GDP as around $100 trillion, which is peanuts compared to the prospective fine. Google would therefore have to find more money than exists on Earth to pay Moscow

    I'm not sure that GDP is the best number to use here. That's annual economic activity. I'd think that that wealth would be more-interesting.

    According to this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_wealth

    ...total global household wealth in 2022 -- which I imagine is closer to what one wants -- is about $454 trillion.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I'm not sure, but that might exceed the total monetary value of the entire solar system if completely disassembled and sold as raw material. Anybody wanna try and do the math? Cause I know I can't.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Most countries in the world are party to the Outer Space Treaty:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty

    Article II

    Outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies, is not subject to national appropriation by claim of sovereignty, by means of use or occupation, or by any other means.

    Basically, all countries realistically capable of trying to enforce such a claim are party to the treaty.

    So as things stand, nobody can really own any celestial bodies outside Earth.

    I imagine that if humanity survives and spreads and starts to have interest in resources elsewhere, that that may change, but as things stand, the effective value of everything up there is pretty much zero, because you can't own anything other than spacecraft that you launch.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    To put that into perspective, the World Bank estimates global GDP as around $100 trillion, which is peanuts compared to the prospective fine. Google would therefore have to find more money than exists on Earth to pay Moscow

    Yeah, uhm... let's get into a 1000x more severe depression than 1929 to get the money printed, eh?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    I have a feeling there aren't that many dollars

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Does anyone know the name of the number with that many zeroes?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sounds like Russia is already expecting hyperinflation

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