▲ 180 ▼ Russian court fines Google $20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (www.theregister.com) submitted 2 years ago by Louisoix@lemm.ee to c/news@lemmy.world 38 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] grue@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago (2 children) On one hand, fuck Russia. On the other hand... The court imposed a fine of 100 thousand rubles ($1,025) per day, with the total fine doubling every week. ...I really wish western governments had the balls to impose fines like this on tech companies when they engage in actual fuckery. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) That "fuckery" was blocking Russian propaganda on YouTube due to US sanctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I know; I wrote "actual" fuckery to contrast with that. I would like to see Google punished with weekly-doubling fines for the things it actually deserves to be punished for, as opposed to blocking Russian propaganda, which it does not deserve to be punished for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you're the Russian state then Google deserves this. What you want is authoritarianism when it suites you, and liberalism when it doesn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nah, fuck that nonsense. Objective reality exists and moral relativism is bullshit. Whether Google deserves to be punished for something depends entirely on what that something actually was, and the notion that there's some kind of hypocrisy in agreeing with punishment in one circumstance but not another is absolutely ridiculous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago Nah, fuck that nonsense. Objective reality exists and moral relativism is bullshit. Even if it's true - you aren't the one deciding what Google "deserves" or not now are you? So you need to convince others of your "objective reality". permalink fedilink source parent [–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Fines need to be payable, otherwise they are a joke. A large chunk of global revenue GDPR-style is reasonable because it really hurts the profits but it's still small enough that the company can pay it, and it will incentivize the company to change their practices. If the company (or anyone) gets a fine they can't pay they will just ignore it, so it only makes sense if you want to kick out the company out of your country, in which case you should skip the extra steps. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) That "fuckery" was blocking Russian propaganda on YouTube due to US sanctions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I know; I wrote "actual" fuckery to contrast with that. I would like to see Google punished with weekly-doubling fines for the things it actually deserves to be punished for, as opposed to blocking Russian propaganda, which it does not deserve to be punished for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you're the Russian state then Google deserves this. What you want is authoritarianism when it suites you, and liberalism when it doesn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nah, fuck that nonsense. Objective reality exists and moral relativism is bullshit. Whether Google deserves to be punished for something depends entirely on what that something actually was, and the notion that there's some kind of hypocrisy in agreeing with punishment in one circumstance but not another is absolutely ridiculous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago Nah, fuck that nonsense. Objective reality exists and moral relativism is bullshit. Even if it's true - you aren't the one deciding what Google "deserves" or not now are you? So you need to convince others of your "objective reality". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah I know; I wrote "actual" fuckery to contrast with that. I would like to see Google punished with weekly-doubling fines for the things it actually deserves to be punished for, as opposed to blocking Russian propaganda, which it does not deserve to be punished for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you're the Russian state then Google deserves this. What you want is authoritarianism when it suites you, and liberalism when it doesn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nah, fuck that nonsense. Objective reality exists and moral relativism is bullshit. Whether Google deserves to be punished for something depends entirely on what that something actually was, and the notion that there's some kind of hypocrisy in agreeing with punishment in one circumstance but not another is absolutely ridiculous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago Nah, fuck that nonsense. Objective reality exists and moral relativism is bullshit. Even if it's true - you aren't the one deciding what Google "deserves" or not now are you? So you need to convince others of your "objective reality". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you're the Russian state then Google deserves this. What you want is authoritarianism when it suites you, and liberalism when it doesn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nah, fuck that nonsense. Objective reality exists and moral relativism is bullshit. Whether Google deserves to be punished for something depends entirely on what that something actually was, and the notion that there's some kind of hypocrisy in agreeing with punishment in one circumstance but not another is absolutely ridiculous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago Nah, fuck that nonsense. Objective reality exists and moral relativism is bullshit. Even if it's true - you aren't the one deciding what Google "deserves" or not now are you? So you need to convince others of your "objective reality". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Nah, fuck that nonsense. Objective reality exists and moral relativism is bullshit. Whether Google deserves to be punished for something depends entirely on what that something actually was, and the notion that there's some kind of hypocrisy in agreeing with punishment in one circumstance but not another is absolutely ridiculous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago Nah, fuck that nonsense. Objective reality exists and moral relativism is bullshit. Even if it's true - you aren't the one deciding what Google "deserves" or not now are you? So you need to convince others of your "objective reality". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago Nah, fuck that nonsense. Objective reality exists and moral relativism is bullshit. Even if it's true - you aren't the one deciding what Google "deserves" or not now are you? So you need to convince others of your "objective reality". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Fines need to be payable, otherwise they are a joke. A large chunk of global revenue GDPR-style is reasonable because it really hurts the profits but it's still small enough that the company can pay it, and it will incentivize the company to change their practices. If the company (or anyone) gets a fine they can't pay they will just ignore it, so it only makes sense if you want to kick out the company out of your country, in which case you should skip the extra steps. permalink fedilink source parent