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The former Wyoming congresswoman Liz Cheney “hopes to be able to rebuild” the Republican party after Donald Trump leaves the political stage. Mitt Romney, the retiring Utah senator and former presidential nominee, reportedly hopes so too.

Among other prominent Republicans who refuse to bow the knee, the former Maryland governor Larry Hogan is running for a US Senate seat in a party led by Trump but insists he can be part of a post-Trump GOP.

Michael Steele, the former Republican National Committee chair turned MSNBC host, advocated more dramatic action: “We have to blow this crazy-ass party up and have it regain its senses, or something else will be born out of it. There are only two options here. Hogan will be a key player in whatever happens. Liz Cheney, [former congressmen] Adam Kinzinger and Joe Walsh – all of us who have been pushed aside and fortunately were not infected with Maga, we will have something to say about what happens on 6 November.”

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Why would they want to? They have all but taken over the democratic party. The US now has OG republicans and the new world fascist party.

The current Dem standce on immigration is wild.. not the wall is a weird idea.. no they now say trump is just ineffective in building it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The current Dem standce on immigration is wild.. not the wall is a weird idea.. no they now say trump is just ineffective in building it.

Republicans: "We absolutely will not allow a single bit of progress on this issue unless you give us a wall"

Democrats; "Fine you can have your wall if it means we can at least fix part of the problem now"

Seems like the wild position here are the assholes demanding a wall in order to allow action. They control the House. We have to change that.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Within a year or two of Trump dying they will have the party back under control and everyone will be taking marching orders from only the megadonors again.

The only reason the maga nutjobs got tontake center stage was Trump saying the horrible shit out loud with the delivery that some people wanted to hear. The fact that nobody has upstaged him is a good sign that there isn't a similar person waiting in the wings to fill his role.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not so fast. David Duke was saying the quiet part out loud and he was only a fringe candidate. There’s something else going on here, I don’t know what it is exactly, that makes Trump more marketable.

The only things I can think of is that he has had decades in the public eye, and he’s been presented as smart and successful for most of that time. And bizarrely enough, he reflects a bygone era in America where blue collar union guys had pensions, which were blown away by billionaires like him. And yet, this billionaire known for grift and stiffing his workers, somehow became their champion.

The whole process has opened my eyes to just how much marketing works with a certain demographic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

There’s something else going on here, I don’t know what it is exactly, that makes Trump more marketable.

He is a professional bullshitter who can say anything with a straight face. It works on a large part of the population, because humans are social creatures who want to hear what they want to hear. They want to be told all their problems will be magically solved and are the fault of someone else.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago

His kids are probably waiting in the wings expecting to be future candidates.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

If trump loses? Yeah. They will. He is already going extra senile and has spent the past eight years proving he can't get downballot candidates elected.

Which will get us back to bush era republicans. Basically buying us maybe another decade until they transition from "we need to fight crime and promote family values" to "let's murder some brown people and enslave women" again.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

We have to blow this crazy-ass party up and have it regain its senses

You all going back to Eisenhower years then? The rot has been in the party for a long time, Trump is just the final result, not a cause.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Wait that far? I'd have said Reagan.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

Reagan was a product of the shift Republicans had made earlier to help guarantee votes and power. The difference in the GOP then and now was mainly in how much they could say out loud.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

How about not having a party that did everything possible to get us to this place. I want what the dems are now to be as far to the right as this country is willing to go.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

While right vs left is overall a useless idea, overall I wan to move more right than trump who I find too centrist. To each their own.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This also applies to much of the left. It’s because the US is an oligarchy and doesn’t have representation that is proportional

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

You're getting downvotes, but you're right.

At least you were, but now the Republicans are going to fall apart when they lose and "The Left" will be free to organize against the right-wing, pro-fracking, genocide-supporting Democrat party.

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