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[–] [email protected] 9 points 55 minutes ago

For those that didn't see the rest of this tweet, Frankie Hawkes is in fact a dog. A pretty cute dog, for what it's worth.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 59 minutes ago

Ah yes, pollute the prompt. Nice. Reminds me of how artists are starting to embed data and metadata in their pieces that fuck up AI training data.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Easily by thwarted by simply proofreading your shit before you submit it

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Is it? If ChatGPT wrote your paper, why would citations of the work of Frankie Hawkes raise any red flags unless you happened to see this specific tweet? You'd just see ChatGPT filled in some research by someone you hadn't heard of. Whatever, turn it in. Proofreading anything you turn in is obviously a good idea, but it's not going to reveal that you fell into a trap here.

If you went so far as to learn who Frankie Hawkes is supposed to be, you'd probably find out he's irrelevant to this course of study and doesn't have any citeable works on the subject. But then, if you were doing that work, you aren't using ChatGPT in the first place. And that goes well beyond "proofreading".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

This should be okay to do. Understanding and being able to process information is foundational

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There are professional cheaters and there are lazy ones, this is gonna get the lazy ones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 47 minutes ago

I wouldn't call "professional cheaters" to the students that carefully proofread the output. People using chatgpt and proofreading content and bibliography later are using it as a tool, like any other (Wikipedia, related papers...), so they are not cheating. This hack is intended for the real cheaters, the ones that feed chatgpt with the assignment and return whatever hallucination it gives to you without checking anything else.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 hours ago

Btw, this is an old trick to cheat the automated CV processing, which doesn't work anymore in most cases.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (8 children)

I like to royally fuck with chatGPT. Here's my latest, to see exactly where it draws the line lol:

https://chatgpt.com/share/671d5d80-6034-8005-86bc-a4b50c74a34b

TL;DR: your internet connection isn't as fast as you think

[–] [email protected] 81 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (6 children)

Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the hiway.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago

Ages ago, there was a time where my dad would mail back up tapes for offsite storage because their databases were large enough that it was faster to put it through snail mail.

It should also be noted his databases were huge, (they’d be bundled into 79 pound packages and shipped certified.)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I'm laughing my ass off at this

Edit:

https://chatgpt.com/share/671da57b-5fe4-8005-bdba-68b69f398c72

Still fucking amazing

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Peregrine falcons FTL…

(There’s this fat fucker that hunts off our building’s rooftop. It waits for a pigeon to strike the neighboring buildings windows and scoops them up. Some how it’s reassuring to know that humans aren’t the only lazy animals. Peregrine are freaking cool though.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

or a train full of dudes jorking it like that one NSFW copypasta

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Is that now 6 comma 016 or 6016?

We do , and . for parts, ' for thousands here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

6.065 petabytes a second or 6065 Tb/s

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Just takes one student with a screen reader to get screwed over lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

Presumably the teacher knows which students would need that, and accounts for it.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

A human would likely ask the professor who is Frankie Hawkes.. later in the post they reveal Hawkes is a dog. GPT just hallucinate something up to match the criteria.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 hours ago

The students smart enough to do that, are also probably doing their own work or are learning enough to cross check chatgpt at least..

There's a fair number that just copy paste without even proof reading...

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 11 hours ago (12 children)

My college workflow was to copy the prompt and then "paste without formatting" in Word and leave that copy of the prompt at the top while I worked, I would absolutely have fallen for this. :P

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 110 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 75 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I think most students are copying/pasting instructions to GPT, not uploading documents.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Right, but the whitespace between instructions wasn't whitespace at all but white text on white background instructions to poison the copy-paste.

Also the people who are using chatGPT to write the whole paper are probably not double-checking the pasted prompt. Some will, sure, but this isnt supposed to find all of them its supposed to catch some with a basically-0% false positive rate.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah knocking out 99% of cheaters honestly is a pretty good strategy.

And for students, if you're reading through the prompt that carefully to see if it was poisoned, why not just put that same effort into actually doing the assignment?

[–] [email protected] 53 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point, so forgive me, but I expect carefully reading the prompt is still orders of magnitude less effort than actually writing a paper?

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Something I saw from the link someone provided to the thread, that seemed like a good point to bring up, is that any student using a screen reader, like someone visually impaired, might get caught up in that as well. Or for that matter, any student that happens to highlight the instructions, sees the hidden text, and doesnt realize why they are hidden and just thinks its some kind of mistake or something. Though I guess those students might appear slightly different if this person has no relevant papers to actually cite, and they go to the professor asking about it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 hours ago

They would quickly learn that this person doesn't exist (I think it's the professor's dog?), and ask the prof about it.

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