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[–] [email protected] 158 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

2010: We want bigger batteries, they give us colorful phones

2015 We want bigger batteries, they give us 1mm thinner phones

2020 We want bigger batteries, they give us 5 cameras

2025 We want bigger batteries, they give us AI

Phones are a great example of the utter failure of capitalism to address what people actually need and want.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago (4 children)

They also keep taking away features, like removable storage (microSD) and headphone jacks. There's a few phones that have them, but it gets more difficult to find them as time goes on.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Create a problem, sell a solution. It's so annoying.
headphone jack -> sell bluetooth headphones
microSD -> sell cloud storage

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Late stage capitalism

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Sony Xperia flagship has both. I think it's the only Snapdragon 8g3 phone that does.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

*folds phone in half*

That's two batteries for the price of one.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

More like two batteries for the price of two phones; foldables are still expensive AF

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Two half-size batteries for the price of three full-size phones coming right up

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would like colourful phones back though, they were so much more fun compared to the sea of black/white/grey + ONE option in the blue-purple spectrum we have today.

Can we get that AND bigger batteries?...bigger colourful batteries even?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Steve Jobs proved that consumers don’t actually know what they want until you tell them. And it’s the manufacturers job to tell them what they want and deliver it.

Since Apple doesn’t want a bigger battery that means no one gets a bigger battery.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

jobs was an ass. and smelled like it

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Literally just give us phones that can do what they could do 10 years ago, with modern batteries.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 month ago (3 children)

this. put the sensors, audio jack, notification led, ir blaster back!

And fuck off with the ai!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

LED notifications and physical keyboards. I miss my Blackberry

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

God me too. I feel like such a luddite whenever I bring this up. Touch screen keys even with swipe to text are terrible

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I just want both the Touch ID and the Face ID on my damn phone…

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I want it to be like the glory days of the Note 8/9. You want a FP reader? Its on the back and it works really well! You want Facial recognition? How about iris scans as well! Notification LED, aux jack, and a Pen built right in! Not enough storage, pop in a MicroSD. Only thing that was missing was easily swapped batteries! It all went downhill from here imo

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

My ideal would basically be a modern version of the lg v20 - give me that removable battery, headphone jack, microsd slot, etc and just give me the current gen on chipset, screen, camera, etc.

No AI, no preloaded nonsense I can't get rid of, I don't care that it could be 0.000004mm thinner without the jack.

Its never been about what the consumer wants, its about driving "features" that will make more profits.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (7 children)

It feels like yesterday some guy was arguing against me here on Lemmy about my personal choice of wanting a longer battery life.

WELL LOOK AT ME NOW BRO

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No bro, it's totally better to get 5-6 hours of battery and AI cause like it's so incredible bro

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago

People have been asking for thicker phones with more battery for years. Wth

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (16 children)

I think the battery system that's best for everyone would be user-replaceable batteries. That way you can have an extra battery on hand to swap in as needed, or even extra-capacity batteries that make your phone a little thicker for people who are okay with that.

Those of us who do actually prefer thinner, lighter phones can still have them (maybe with a slight increase in thickness to accommodate the attachment mechanisms). Plus bigger batteries are a huge waste of resources if the capacity isn't going to be used.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

When I replaced my 5 year old phone the only two benefits I saw was OLED screen (never going without again) and the battery life going from maybe a day to like 40 hours

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

I like AI and my phone to be separate. Chatgpt is just an app, it shouldn't be a core feature

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

Oh wow shocking, people actually cared more about usability than trashy feature? That's unheard of

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I don't get what those companies try to achieve by automating writing (by spewing statistically probable prose), reading (by badly summarizing text cobbled from excerpts without the ability to make any sense of it), art, photography, music, all standardized to the lowest common denominator.

I'm not buying a new device that will try to impose any of this hype. For now, Apple has decided to "punish" the users in the European Union by holding the Apple Intelligence features hostage. FINE BY ME!

edit: typo/phrasing

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Yea. There are very few machine learning driven features that would actually improve my life in a meaningful way. I feel much more „punished“ by the omission of iPhone mirroring on mac than any Apple Intelligence feature.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How about making a phone that's a whole millimeter thicker just to make the glass thick and strong enough that it won't break if you drop it?

Great idea! Unless of course the replacement of parts and broken phones is a core part of the business model.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (20 children)

Do people here actually use AI? And if so…for what?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I use AI for what Google used to be able to do: Finding answers to simple questions. Usually about tech but sometimes movies or music. Like how do I add a physical volume to LVM, or what are the specs of this little fan model? Or who was that actress in a movie about kids buried in a collapsed building? Things like that…

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Can we please stop calling LLMs artificial intelligence?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

No. Strictly and technically speaking, LLMs absolutely fall under the category of AI. You’re thinking of AGI, which is a subset of AI, and which LLMs will be a necessary but insufficient component of.

I’m an AI Engineer; I’ve taken to, in my circles, calling AI “Algorithmic Intelligence” rather than “Artificial Intelligence.” It’s far more fitting term for what is happening. But until the Yanns and Ngs and Hintons of the field start calling it that, we’re stuck with it.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

It would be mice to have better battery life.

2008 and onwards.

Edit: was so confused about the answers til I noticed the error :-p

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

No! I don't care about battery! I want to become more dependent on advertising companies to arrange my daily life!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

I barely use my phone as anything more than a glorified pager. I don't need fucking AI.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

yeah but you can't set inflate your stock value based on hype about battery life.

people forget that these features aren't for users. it's for idiots who invest in ridiculous shit hoping it to be the next big thing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Give me a phone that’s 1.5 cm thick (before the camera bump) and lasts two days and I’ll buy fucking 10 of them.

JUST STOP. MAKING. THEM. THINNER.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

They're pushing AI so hard but most people just see it as a gimmicky thing. The only people who care are the investors.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Smartphone buyers care more about that thing that they've been begging for, for years? You don't say... And mobile phone manufacturers are again and still going to ignore what people actually want in favor of expensive and non functional vaporware, like they always do?

You don't say!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I just bought two brand new three year old phones to replace the identical broken ones we currently have because the current models have less functionality for more than we paid for these.

To get the same functionality cost twice as much.

And we still get three years warranty..

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also I want my OS to be an actual OS with root access. I want Linux in particular.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I really hope the AI hype dies off

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