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The Complexity of the Conflict (lemmy.world)

submitted 7 hours ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

“My family live in the terrorist state, therefore I have to support the terrorist state”

[–] [email protected] 78 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Almost self aware.

I have to support the wrong side because my family is on the wrong side.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

If being right means death for your family, it is rational to be wrong.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Except that the slave owners were fine after the civil war. There were no mass executions, they got to keep their property (slaves excepted) and they retained so much political power they managed to reverse reconstruction within a few decades.

There's no reason you couldn't dissolve the apartheid state without the violence Zionists claim would be wrought on them. South Africa can be a model for this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Civil War was a country fighting itself for a few years. Israel and Palestine have been at odds for... Ever. There's a little more animosity than the civil war. Also dissolving the apartheid state is anathema to Israel because they don't want to share the land.

[+] [email protected] -13 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Except white farmers were slaughtered in south africa...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The ANC made a special point to protect the apartheidists during their Truth and Reconciliation hearings. It wasn't until said white farmers began violently resisting efforts to repatriate land to native farmers that the government lost control of retribution. Even then, they weren't "slaughtered". Many simply abandoned the properties after the ANC failed to intercede on their behalf.

Quite a few white South Africans are currently leaving to become converts to Judaism in order to participate in the Israeli Settler Movement

From a former Pentecostal pastor to entire families, a growing number of Afrikaners are converting to Orthodox Judaism and swapping South Africa for Israel – and, in many cases, West Bank settlements

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago

All of them? I'm pretty sure there's still a lot of white south Africans around, just because there were a few incidents doesn't make it largely peaceful. The alternative to a peaceful transition is Rhodesia, if you want to go the route of constant escalation.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That’s the same self serving BS excuse we heard from slave owners during the civil war, and from Afrikaners during apartheid.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Do they mean the USA civil war and that south, or one of many other civil wars?

The USA South is fine. Fully integrated. They just couldn't be dicks for a while.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago

Legally integrated, but I wouldn't say fully. Source: living in the South.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago

Well of course, he's talking about the War of Palestinian aggression. Where his ancestors fought against the Palestinian incursions into the peaceful Israel South to stop his people from being oppressed and their way of life radically altered, if not extinguished! They would have won it if not for the blockade and Emancipation Proclamation.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The US south are functionally third world countries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

First world is not "best world" but wester aligned countries

Second world is not "the meh world" but eastern block aligned countries

The third world isn't "shit hole" but non-aligned countries

I thought we all learned this already

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 hours ago

I think I had a stroke trying to comprehend this