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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Unless your cooking Italian. I had an Italian tell me once, it's either garlic or onions but not both together

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

It's weird, I watch a lot of Youtube videos about street food vendors in India and sometimes they brag about not using garlic or onions in their offerings. I don't get how that could possibly be a selling point.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Y'all, pinch of baking soda and you'll have caramelized onions in no time flat. It's amazing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That breaks down the onions too much and then reacts with the fats in the pan to make soap.

3/10 do not recommend.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I tried "velveting" some beef the other day (basically marinating the meat in baking soda) and the result was absolutely disgusting, both in terms of texture and flavor. I wonder if maybe I didn't wash off the baking soda sufficiently and got soap, although that wouldn't explain the texture issue. The texture was similar to Chinese takeout beef but somehow not as palatable.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I've never had it break them down too much, nor create anything remotely soapy in flavor. Perhaps it chemically does create soap, I don't know. But the end result is delicious and I'm a fifth the time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait now, what? I wish to know more.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (7 children)

Yep, it's jump starting a process key to flavors we all like called the Maillard Reaction

E: guess I'm technically correct about baking soda speeding up caramelization, but not in regards to what the Maillard reaction has to do with caramelizing. Whoops.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh shit. That is so cool! I knew lye was used in making pretzels, but i didn't know it was to get the Maillard browning to happen faster. The wiki page says that one way to reduce the formation of acrylamide, a carcinogen, is by adding carbon dioxide, which ~~is actually released when baking soda is dissolved in water~~ will be released during cooking (edit: see reply chain below for discussion on this point)... IDK for sure if it's enough to really help, but I'm gonna just roll with it and say it is because delicious food is delicious.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Baking powder releases carbon dioxide. Baking soda just creates aqueous bicarb ions and a more basic solution (which is the key to a faster reaction).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Heating a solution of aqueous bicarbonate will release carbon dioxide, too. But since we have delicious onions and stuff in there too, let's walk through my thought process: Baking powder is baking soda + weak acid + cornstarch (to prevent premature reaction). Since the speed-up for the Maillard reaction works by deprotonating amino groups to make them more nucleophilic, the acid-base reaction that releases CO~2~ when using baking powder will still occur with just baking soda + food (ie: the protiens in the food are acting as the acid). You're probably right that using baking powder would produce more CO~2~, or at least produce it faster, but reducing carcinogenic side products for Maillard reactions via CO~2~ is a low-priority concern for me anyway. Just a fun curiousity that occured to me when reading the wiki page!

Sorry if my carbon dioxide subscripts don't work. I don't think my client supports all the fancy markdown, but i tried my best.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

It took me like at least an hour the other night for french onion soup.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

on a stick. caramel onion on a stick.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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