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The response from other cybertruck owners? Calling FUD: https://www.reddit.com/gallery/1g5sv5w

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

Three Teslas in nine years? What the fuck!?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

At a company I used to work at our team was going out for lunch, so I hitched a ride with a coworker. His car was a BMW, either 3 or 5 series I don't remember. "Nice car", I said when getting in. "Eh it's all right; it's two years old now. I need to upgrade." was his reply. There are people who upgrade their cars more frequently than I upgrade my phone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

If you're leasing I guess it doesn't matter?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 hours ago

It's virtue signaling between smug techbros clown-to-clown-communicationclown-to-clown-conversation

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago

While also owning a "big diesel pickup" that also got about 15 mpg.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 hours ago

I bought another shitty car from the company that makes shitty cars and it is shitty, just like the last two

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Seems like a combination of the cyber truck being wildly inefficient due to being incredibly heavy and bazinga shaped and supercharger stations charging double or more the usual residential rate per kWh.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

It costs money to run the diesel generator powering the charging station. A year ago there was a study on what it would require to have a typical truck stop for Tesla's electric semis. A 30MW generating capacity, with even a basic charging station using as much power as a town of 5000 people: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-14/tesla-s-electric-semis-are-coming-and-trucks-stops-aren-t-ready

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Why the fuck are the charging stations running on diesel joke of a country joke of an electrical grid

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

the vast majority of them are grid-only. Some large stations apparently have used diesel supplementary power for when lots of cars are charging at the same time in the past, and there's no way to be 100% sure they don't still do it, but I have seen no evidence they do. It's still dumb they did that like, ever, but not as bad as he made it out to be

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's an energy density thing, it takes a shitload of electricity to charge something huge to run very far, that's why petrol has such a grip on things. In a rational system you could create some sort of predictable, low-friction road where economies of scale could let you transport large amounts of freight and people quickly with less power, but car-brain hasn't come up with a solution yet. You either need massive capacity to accommodate all the electric trucks on demand, or a long wait to let them charge at a manageable rate.

Or you could just train-chad

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Is that a train chad emoji? Hexbear you spoil us!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They run diesel generators? Lol would be funny if cubertrucks are emitting more CO2 normal trucks.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

its a misconception. They did do so at one location that I've seen citations for, a very large installation in socal that presumably needed more power than the grid could provide without upgraded infrastructure nearby, and supposedly they upgraded that one and haven't done so in years.

The vast vast majority are definitely just running off the grid but someone seems to have started a rumor that all the big transformer cabinets around the stations are actually housing generators.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I was looking at the math for Cybertruck energy usage and it is shockingly (heh) egregious: Using the numbers provided in the post it takes like 3.5 days worth of the average USA household electric usage to haul that bloated doorstop 200 miles. And that's with all of the "round it for easy math" happening to go Tesla's way...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

It's not unique to that particular bloated doorstop. By the screenshot's numbers it comes in at 533 Wh/mi which is toward the lower end of US EV efficiency but not the lowest. According to this chart that about matches the Chevy Silverado EV at 535 Wh/mi and the Hummer EV at 674 Wh/mi is even worse. Of course, more reasonably sized EVs are more like 200-300 Wh/mi.

Amerikkkan cars are just too fucking big and making them electric doesn't do a damn thing to fix that.

I'd expect that if you calculated the average amerikkkan household energy use (including fuel) instead of electricity, these monster EVs wouldn't be that outside the norm, because the average amerikkkan household owns an F150.

EDIT: and my electric unicycle takes about 44 Wh/mi.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 hours ago

Maybe don't pay a 390% mark up on electricity.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago

I have made long drives in our X and it was awesome. The CT on long drives is very disappointing.

Le Epic X sounds awesome...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago

It's the curse of the Edmund Fitzgerald!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

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