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can we just have trains already please (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

This is btw also what Apple tried to build. That's why their car project failed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

It wasn't an accident though? It's a large transit van that doesn't have a driver

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (5 children)

To be fair, a cab is not a bus, but still an essential part of transit. They are usually far too expensive to be considered an option(for me, a European city dweller) so anything that makes them more accessible is good.

I ain't paying 10 bucks to go 5 miles.

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[+] [email protected] -7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

A robo-taxi is private, arrives when you call it, and goes directly from where you are to where you want to be. I don't see the similarities between that and a bus or train.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's a robo-van, not a robo-taxi.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

My impression is that the robo-van is intended to be a taxi with some ride-sharing capabilities.

The Robovan is intended for the company’s Tesla Network, an autonomous ridehailing service for purpose-built self-driving cars

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

So a bus, but without a set timetable, and proprietary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That isn't what rideshareing is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ridesharing implies there's a driver.

So if you own this thing, you're likely sitting in it and going somewhere. And it is going to stop and pickup random people? To sit in a very tight space with you, facing each other? Like bus, but worse?

Do you think you are going to buy one and other people will use it while you sit at home? In which case it's a bus to them. But worse.

Do you think it's going to be owned by Tesla and you are going to pay a monthly fee so you can use their transport and share it with other people? Like a bus, just less consistent.

Tell me your dream scenario.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You really are unnecessarily aggressive and still incorrect. While USUALLY there is a driver and USUALLY the vehicle is privately owned, that does not have to be the case. I have no "dream scenario," I just pointed out that you incorrectly compared the person's comment about ridesharing and taxis to a bus, which is not at all similar.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

How is it not comparable?

It's a vehicle on four wheels, on public roads.
It transports multiple people from A to B.
The people might not be acquaintances.

One is "hail and hope it arrives within reasonable time", the other has a set timetable and can carry more people more comfortably.

It is absolutely comparable, you are incorrect.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who said anything about riding with randos? Regardless, I guess by your definition waymo is busses, lyft/uber are busses, all rideshares are busses, taxis are busses, hell, everything is busses. Why do we have all these words when we can just say busses! Lmao.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My dude, do you not know what fucking ride-sharing is?

A has a car and shares it with B.

A might not be in acquaintance with B.

There HAS to be A and B for it to have "ride-sharing capabilities".

Or else it's a self-driving van.

Lyft/ubers are illegal taxis. There's a driver and a passanger. Going from point a or b. No stops, no randos.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridesharing_company

But sure thing, bud, you're absolutely correct!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Are trolling? You have to be trolling.

"A ridesharing company, ride-hailing service, (the vehicles are called app-taxis or e-taxis) is a company that, via websites and mobile apps, matches passengers with drivers of vehicles for hire that, unlike taxis, cannot legally be hailed from the street. "

Let me fucking chew it up for you, little peanut:

So a driver and a passanger that don't know each other
Going from point X to point Y, no stops.

^ This is a taxi.

Okay, are you still with me? Let's hope.

Now the robo-van does not have a driver. But has "Ride-sharing capabilities" according to the original person I'm replying.

You either are sharing YOUR ride with randos, like a fucking bus, or other randos are sharing their ride with other randos, like a fucking bus.

It's not a fucking 'private pod', it has 14 seats. Otherwise it wouldn't be ride-fucking-sharing!

IF you're sitting alone in it it's just a big fucking stupid taxi.

It's a shit bus, that looks like a retro-futuristic toaster to milk money from idiot techbros.

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