Give em The Harkness Test
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Does that mean there could be species which humans want to fuck, but which would not consider humans intelligent enough to give proper consent?
Theoretically, yeah. There are tool using species right here on this planet that pass a lot of tests about self awareness, but we're an order of magnitude more intelligent than a bonobo (well, mostly) and shouldn't be banging them. I purposely used a species that has recreational sex as an example here.
If there were an intergalactic species that saw us as little more than self aware tool users, that would be up to their morals.
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Either you're smart enough to understand the concept of consent or you aren't. Even if there is a sliding scale of intelligence of creatures (I have some issues with the concept of intelligence as a thing that can reasonably be objectively measured, but we can put that aside for now), whether you're intelligent enough to understand what you will be doing and what will be done to you and make an informed decision about whether you want to do it seems a pretty binary thing, and largely independent of your intelligence in other contexts (e.g. ability to use tools).
You could make the argument that alien sex might be complicated enough for whatever reason that that the aliens would argue that humans couldn't meaningfully understand everything that was being done to them and thus could not, by definition, give informed consent, but at least from my experience, humans seem pretty on board with things they don't fully understand. Whether it's ethical to fuck someone who has admitted that they don't know anything about what you're going to do to them, is aware they may be harmed by it, and wants to do it anyway is another question.
Besides, all we'd need is for one human to fuck one alien for science to know whether or not it was safe.
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seems like this has some troublesome edge cases. like parrots.
Parrots don't have human intelligence tho.
i asked one if it had human intelligence and it said yes.
Might want to add, "Does it consent?" to the end of that.
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A few years later:
These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise.
Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations. And have sex with them.
Be honest, Riker wrote that plot didn't he?:-)
I guess you're not familiar with the exploits of Captain James T. Kirk?
Kirk mostly used seduction as a tool; he fucked women because it was expedient. Riker did it just because he could.
Yeah it's made explicit with dialog in the show that the Enterprise itself is Kirk's primary obsession.
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Where do you think Riker got his playbook from? :-P
Yo, my man Trip was first.
Never forget that Trip straight up got impregnated In season 1.
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Interspecies Reviewers but sci-fi
“However, I did make it with a hot alien babe. And in the end, is that not what man has dreamt of since first he looked up at the stars?”
Riker Maneuver intensifies.
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Low quality ass jpegs in 2024 should be a war crime.
That spoiler didn’t work, at least on lemmy.
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Obviously Earth has passed the test.
They were given a task, found a group for whom the task would be ideal in both their willingness and ability to do it, and presented this group to the task giver. They did not force a slave class, they didn't do a lottery, they didn't see it as a chance to get rid of undesirables, they just sent people who legitimately wanted to go.
There was no victim, thus there was no crime.
If these aliens can't tell, they're morons who clearly didn't think it through.
Sir, this is a Wendys
If these aliens can't tell, they're morons who clearly didn't think it through.
There's a popular phrase:"breeding like rabbits". We view rabbits like some sex crazed breeding machines, like all they do is fuck. What if we're the galactic rabbits and the other galactic civilizations aren't trying to fuck everything that moves? Maybe for them kinks aren't a thing and as such their test makes sense because you can't prepare for something you can't imagine (or believe to be impossible).
Imagine you want to prank an alien by putting a bucket on top of the door. When the alien walks in the bucket falls on them. Brilliant, except the alien doesn't move the door because it phases through the door. Are you stupid for making a prank that expects the victim to be solid? Or did you just make the prank based on the knowledge you have, which includes knowing you can't just phase through things.
The aliens weren't dumb. Maybe they did think in through and they thought it would be impossible to be intelligent being to want to fuck extraterrestrials.
I mean id at least sign up. Who knows, I could be into it.
If not, hell, at least I'm off earth.
Yeah.
The odds feel at least even as a penniless immigrant in a space faring society, than as a citizen in one that no longer particularly seems to value truth or science.
“Careful what you ask for, you just might get it.”
It's weird... I feel like any civilisation worth joining the galactic federation would have no issues finding volunteers to save their civilisation anyway (though maybe not 14 minutes...)
You know, sometimes I wish I did a little more with my life instead of hanging out in front of places selling weed and shit. Like, maybe be an animal doctor. Why not me? I like seals and shit. Or maybe an astronaut. Yeah. Like, be the first motherfucker to see a new galaxy, or find a new alien lifeform... and fuck it. And people'd be like, "There he goes. Homeboy fucked a Martian once.
"I mean we've been coming here for 50 years and performing anal probes and all that we have learned is that one in ten doesn't really seem to mind."
Shut up and get that alien dick out!
Humans: hold my beer...
I'll bet they have advanced healthcare.
That alone would get you the volunteers.
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....humans, amiright?
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