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I struggle with this for my personal computer. The TV-computer combo shuts off the monitor (triggers the tv to shut off when there is no input) after an hour. An hour after that it's suspended, works well.

My personal computer though, sometimes I shut off the monitor, most of the time I let it run for the day completely powered. I have yet to set any type of shutdown or standby because typically I use it more than I do my tv (work, gaming, videos, etc on the comp). I know there's some power conservation I need to consider for motivation, I have no security concern atm with my standard main account and everything private is layered so inaccessible.

tl;dr

what's everyone else's setup like for when they walk away from the computer?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

If it’s just a for a few minutes then I just leave it running. If I’m going to be gone for 45 minutes or more I shut it down. Then throw the power switch on the surge protector. No need to use the electricity.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's your typical "stand-by" mode for your computer when you're not using it?

Off.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Startup times getting down below 20s definitely helps with this. I haven't had a machine that took over 30s for a few years now... even my phone isn't that slow.

Was recently asked to look at a laptop because it was "running slower than normal" and "takes a long time to resume from sleep." Hmm, ok. It's only a few years old, probably just bloateare.

I powered it on and immediately got served an early-2000s size dose of 10+ minute startup time. This laptop from only a few years ago still came with a spinny disk drive... Ugh. Didn't even bother trying to optimize it. It's getting cloned up to an SSD before I even try to work on it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Startup times getting down below 20s definitely helps with this.

Absolutely. SSDs, systemd, and recent kernels definitely help. From the moment the EFI hands over to the kernel, my ca. 9 years old system is ready for login 3 seconds later.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i keep forgetting there are people who never turn their machines off

and its always wild to see

turn it off, as it should be when you are away

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

not using it? thats an option?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

My computer is a plex server, a homeassistant server, it runs cron jobs, there's a web server with some automation and browsing utilities I use throughout the day. It's on 24/7, doesn't sleep.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Same. Only reason I lock it when I leave the house is so my cat can't crawl around on the keyboard and fuck with shit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I haven't turned off my laptop in close to 10 years. I just flip the screen and it's good to go tomorrow. A marvellous workhorse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Same, I turn off monitors and do the 3 finger salute. Only turn it off for cleaning. Been doing this since my first 486 PC.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's usually off unless I expect to be back relatively soon. Startup times aren't an issue nowadays

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, my PC is booted and ready to go faster than my TV turns on

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Damn, I was going to upvote the comment that says "my computer is on and running, 24 hours a day" but nobody said it yet πŸ™ sorry Earth...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well, that's me then.

Never know when I'm going to need it, and it's usually doing some kind of work overnight (processing media files, syncing files around, etc).

I schedule that stuff for when I should be asleep - less heat in the house during the day, it's off-peak power (doesn't make a noticeable difference to my bill, but why not).

If i need it, I can pause those things.

But I also have a NAS that can do this stuff, but it can only do so much at once.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Holy shit people. It takes 20 seconds to boot up a computer. Turn your shit off. Save yourself money and save the fucking environment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Or suspend that shit is faster than sleep (or hibernate)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Either lock it or full device shutdown. A device i am not actively using doesn't need to be running while I sleep or produce network traffic.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A device i am not actively using doesn't need to be running while I sleep or produce network traffic.

How often do you produce network traffic?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I gots me the 5g from the covid shots πŸ€“

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

PC is powered off when not in use because it's only for gaming and occasionally a build server.

Laptop locked if I'm going out of sight of it, hibernated if I'm going away for more than half an hour or so/need to put it in my bag

Occasionally left on with the screen off if I need it for something remotely but then I'll remotely shut it down when I've got scary i need

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I use software to selectively power down components when not in use so the power usage when idle is like 1.4 W total. So ill only suspend it manually when like going to sleep. Otherwise it sits on.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I shut down, but Fedora boots for me in like 15-20 seconds. My drive encryption is a tiny bit annoying to double log in, but I have longer mental loading pauses all the time, so who am I to complain as if those few seconds are somehow a chore or inconvenience to the calories crusher sponge. Fully cycling RAM off regularly is by-far a best-practice until we live in a Rust-y world.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Lock screen and sleep. My gaming/programming computer is also our media server so it is basically always on.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I usually hibernate just because I usually have several projects open at once and like to dive back in quickly. But ever since upgrading to Windows 10 a million years ago, my computer is possessed and turns itself back on, eventually goes into standby, and won't come out without a hard reset.

In the years since I've neither identified and fixed the problem, nor remembered to shut down instead of hibernate. I just do hard resets a lot now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I turn it off until I’m ready to use it next

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I shut it down. It takes less than 30 seconds to boot back up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

This. I didn't spend nearly 1000 bucks on hardware that ensures that I basically spend more time on the POST screen than on the rest of the entire boot sequence to keep the thing on 24/7

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What about the Torrents? When do you seed?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I don’t download anything. I’m not adverse to piracy it’s just I don’t consume a lot outside of YouTube really.

I did have a sick server rack (Dell R610, if I recall) with torrenting setup and automated pretty much with it all synced to Plex for friends to connect to, but again I don’t consume much media as I find I don’t concentrate or multitask unless I go to the cinema. I did start hoarding media during that phase though just for the hobby of it πŸ˜‚

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

After 30mins of inactivity my account locks and my screens blank. Few seconds after that my monitors go to standby. That's it. I never shutdown unless something necessitates it and I only really reboot for updates if they require it. My PC basically stays on 24/7 and I've never had any issues. Current build has parts all the way back from 2015/2016 with no failures to speak of.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

My desktop PC stays on through out the day, but I turn it off when I’m sleeping, mostly because it flashes the power button LED in sleep mode, which sometimes prevents me from sleeping. I usually turn of the monitor for the same reason (LED button stays on).

My macbook is set to sleep/lock itself after some period of inactivity, and when I’m done for the day, I usually just close it. The only time I fully turn it off is when I’m traveling and trying to save as much battery as I can.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Leave it on, but turn off the monitor. I have it set up as a GitLab runner for some projects and also want to be able to SSH/SFTP in to access files, run updates, etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have hibernate enabled in windows, and have it set for when I click the power button on the case it hibernates instead of sleep or shutdown. Hibernation means it's off, but it saves its state before it shuts down and restores it after turning on. Meaning I have the convenience of my startup programs being all booted up and open windows and programs are just as I left them. I shutdown the computer normally the last time I use it at night, so I have it freshly booted in the morning.

Personally I hate waste and walking away from a computer for more than a few minutes and leaving it on makes me uncomfortable. I know I'm weird and a bit on the extreme side, but it's how I feel, and the hibernation option is a good option that keeps most of the convenience of leaving it on or suspended.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I dont get why hibernate isn't a more popular feature, I use it extensively as I hate having to set everything back up on each restart.

Its also one of my biggest issues with using Linux as it's usually broken there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I also don't understand why Windows hides it now and you have to dig around to re enable it.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I leave it running during lunch and dinner unless we are going out somewhere. I turn it off at night too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have different computers for different purposes. One runs 24/7 because it runs various servers. A couple are for gaming and are put to sleep when not in use. My laptop is shut down because I have no reason not to. I've also got a ras pie that runs 27/7.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I do wish Pop!_OS had a better hibernate/sleep mode.

My computer just stays on until I turn it off or the battery dies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

swaylock + swayidle, using wlopm to turn my monitors off after 5 minutes (and lock after 6 minutes, but if I'm going away from the computer I lock it myself with a keyboard shortcut anyway). I try to turn off the computer if I'm away for a while though, as I have full disk encryption.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

After 10 or so minutes of inactivity my monitor shuts down (well, screen black, not actually pushing the power button on the monitor).

When I know I'll leave for half an hour or more (and I'm not downloading something big), I hit the physical sleep button on my keyboard. Iunno, not needing to go through a couple clicks on the start menu and instead just pressing two buttons makes me more likely to use it.

Lastly, when I'll be gone for multiple hours (sleeping, working, etc.) and I don't have a huge or particularly slow download, I shut it off. But I never turn off my multi plug rectangle, unless we got a heavy thunderstorm.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Locked with the screens off.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

If it’s not turned off then xscreensaver kicks in and draws something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

For my desktop, I usually just put it in sleep mode and turn the TV I use as a monitor off. No need for a full shutdown when I'm usually using it a lot in my free time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Desktop 24/7 on with some docker containers

Laptop, I just close it when I’m done

Both I only reboot for updates at least once a month

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Computer off, monitor goes into standby. Using Wake on Lan app to boot computer since it is tucked away under desk

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Tvs are a cheap big monitor but at the end the day they are just a TV. Monitors don't do that!

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