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[–] 204 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I think it’s a good idea for partners to have their own dedicated space that they can decorate for themselves and keep their hobbies in. It helps keep the rest of the house tidy and allows for a little bit of a personal safe haven. Obviously, the traditional conception of a ‘man cave’ isn’t great, but I think that there is a way it can be approached non-toxically

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  • [–] 164 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Fuck that, I'm doing my soldering in the kitchen because that's where the best light is

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    This is so true, heck I've even 'baked' some custom PCB boards in the oven to do some cheap reflow... Every man belongs in the kitchen, that's where all the big boy tools are

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    People REALLY underestimate the value of lighting. My wife likes it dim on the main floor. I am constantly reminding her that we evolved in caves for 100k years and finally have fucking light and she's squandering the advantage.

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  • [–] 69 points 2 years ago

    I'd hope that nobody would disagree with this.

    The toxic aspect isn't from wanting space apart from your spouse, it's in sending signals (even ironically or in jest) that the family you are a part of is something you hate, that your family is cramping your individuality, and that you want to escape from them.

    Everyone needs their own time and space. Just because you married another human doesn't make you any less of an individual, and having healthy opportunity for time apart is essential.

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Obviously, the traditional conception of a ‘man cave’ isn’t great

    It's not the "traditional concept", it's the juiced up consumerist fantasy. The traditional man-cave is literally just the garage or the basement, where you keep your power tools.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    What if I'm not qualified to glue two pieces of cardboard together? Where is my hideout?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    In that case, you have a few options:

    • The home office/battle station where you can pipe the output from one bash command into another bash command, or set up your media server or just play video games.
    • The kitchen where you can knead and bake sourdough, roll your own pasta, braise a hearty stew, or roast a leg of lamb.
    • The backyard where you can smoke a brisket, bake a pizza, host a wine tasting.
    • The garden or lawn where you can cultivate plants, grow something to eat, design a beautiful landscape, or restore a native sanctuary for migratory insects like the monarch butterfly or birds like a hummingbird or songbirds.
    • The gym where you can get ripped, build up your personal stats, and let off some steam through physical activity.
    • The closet or bedroom where you can plan out your fashion choices and wardrobe, iron your clothes, shine your shoes, and otherwise make stylish choices.
    • Some sort of room or garage where you can jam out with musical instruments.
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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    When I first heard the word "man cave" it seemed to mean rec room/rumpus room as marketed by Spike TV. A finished basement, bonus room above the garage etc. often furnished with such things as a pool table, dart board, leather couch, big screen TV for watching The Game, wet bar, etc. From there it transitioned to mean any space that is considered "his" in the home, which might only be the parts of the garage that aren't full of rubbermaid bins full of shit they own but never use.

    Side note, remember when houses had a room called the "den"?

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    [–] 101 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Sign saying "Just one glass a day" picturing a giant wine glass the size of a goldfish bowl.

    Hilarious.

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  • [–] 76 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    They need good role models like their parents who take them to a local brewery and shove an iPad in their face then ignore them while the parents drink craft beer.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Parenting (and childhood) is intense and unrelenting. You can't expect parents to be on stage continuously and continue to be patient and kind. You also can't expect a 7 year old to be happy listening to their parents talk about work for 45 minutes. Taking breaks or responsibly drinking a beer is perfectly fine and isn't going to negatively impact the child any more than allowing them to watch some age appropriate media for the time before they eat.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I wonder if my perception is fucked or what i have to think about these things. I was once on a date in a restaurant and next to us was a family of 5 and the youngest was maybe 7 and he played Fortnite on an ipad most of the time. My date pointed this out as "rude" and "bad parenting" and i agreed. But it made me thinking. I think i had pretty good parents, and they dragged me and my sister to a lot of places i didn't want to be. But i was pretty happy as long as i could bring my gameboy. The boy was 7 of course he didn't want to sit in a restaurant and do conversation with adults.

    Now my sister has two children that are 7 and 5 and my perception has changed again. It's absolutely scary how addicted kids are to phones. It's like watching crack addicts. They aren't even allowed on the phone a lot, but the things they would do to not even do anything interesting, and just press buttons and play the worst mobile games and watch the worst youtube videos ever created.

    I liked games on my gameboy, and later game gear, but i never liked any game as much as my nephew likes to watch a minecraft video on youtube in a language he doesn't speak (and he never played minecraft.) it's truly bizarre, and because he only likes to watch these dumb ass videos and is only allowed to watch a short goodnight story every night if he behaves, he can't even watch a movie. The concept of something bad happens to a main character blows his mind so much that he never wants to watch a movie with me, and would rather watch elsa getting impregnated by spiderman. He loves the movie cars, and when i showed him cars 3, he couldn't understand how lightning mcqueen would not win at some point.

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    [–] 66 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    My wife really wanted a kid. I love my wife.

    I gave her no illusions though. This world is fucked. This is either the beginning of another dark(enforced ignorance) age or the end of human civilization entirely. The kid is beyond fucked.

    I have more of a "welcome to the shit show, kid" mindset. I can't protect him from this exploitative hellscape, any more than I could protect myself. Oh and please spare me the cliche "well you need to man up and find a way to give them an awesome life," as reality isn't a Disney movie.

    I can show him the stuff I like and ways to protect himself a little, but man his generation's future is bleak.

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago (18 children)

    My husband wants kids, I'm okay without for the same reasons as you and a big disgust of pregnancy. I have a lot of experience with kids in my career and we love kids, but it just seems the kindest thing to do for them is to not bring them into this world. We're planning on fostering once we're in a better financial position and hopefully adopting from there. I'd rather grow our family with a kid or toddler that already got the shit luck of being here.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Aside from global warming the world as a whole has been steadily improving. I think you are confusing the USA with the rest of the world. Empires collapse, it happens, that doesn't mean the whole world is on fire.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    We're going to have problems if you are attacking caves, who doesn't desire a cave?

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    All I can say is I recently got into a thing specifically for the porn, and it ended up being a super emotional and not really all that pornographic story which fucked me all up and I haven't been able to jerk off since.

    Porn wouldn't have done that.

    Edit: Adastra for those asking. I just thought it was just a yiff-filled dating sim when I started it.

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    Children need exposure to a diverse set of role models or they turn into hateful, close-minded lizards spitting venom at healthy people for their choice in decor.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Reminds me of Jonathan Coulton's song "Shopvac"

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    [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Are we talking about the TV show Married With Children?

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