I really don't understand the hype about AI in it's current state.
this post was submitted on 02 Oct 2024
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It's not for you. Its for corporations who want to fire half their staff and replace them with an algorithm. That's why it has such a high valuation.
Those corporations are about to find out the fun way that these algorithms, in their current and near-future states, cannot replace human beings.
Well, except for maybe lazy copywriters who pump out pointless listicles and executives who do - whatever it is they do - but any non-trivial task requiring creativity and understanding is beyond these tools.
You’re assuming that they care about running a viable service or product.
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- Computers might be good at numbers and typesetting, but we'll always need human secretaries and phone operators to keep things running.
- They might be able to beat a novice, but no computer will ever beat a human grandmaster at chess.
- Okay, then they can't beat humans at Go or poker.
- Any non-trivial task requiring creativity and understanding is beyond these tools. ← you are here
- AI-run corporations will never be able to outcompete ones with ones with human boards and CEOs.
- An AI scriptwriter could never win an Oscar.
- I'm voting for the human candidate for president, I don't think the AI one is up to the task.
"When I was young, they told me that one day, AI would do the menial labor so that we would have more time to do what we love - like art, music, and poetry. Today, the AI does art, music, and poetry so that I can work longer hours at my menial labor job for lower wages."
Also, on point one, I still see a lot of job hirings for personal secretaries and people for data entry and to take minutes at meetings, and plenty of people complaining about not being able to actually talk to somebody on the phone to get their problem solved.
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It’s all leading to one final product: VR sex robots
It's not related to the technology, is the venture industry trying tp figure out the next unicorn, which they have been trying to find for the last ten years.
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Honestly, I can say I don't really get it either. I would only use the open source models anyway, but it just seems rather silly from what I can tell.
I would only use the open source models anyway, but it just seems rather silly from what I can tell.
I feel like the last few months have been an inflection point, at least for me. Qwen 2.5, and the new Command-R, really make a 24GB GPU feel "dumb, but smart," useful enough so I pretty much always keep Qwen 32B loaded on the desktop for its sheer utility.
It's still in the realm of enthusiast hardware (aka a used 3090), but hopefully that's about to be shaken up with bitnet and some stuff from AMD/Intel.
Altman is literally a vampire though, and thankfully I think he's going to burn OpenAI to the ground.
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It doesn't matter. Just understand that there are people who get paid way more than the average joe to hype the shit out these companies to attract investor value. Then get mad at capitalism like the rest of us.
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You guys want me to invest? I'm guaranteed to lower the stock value by ~30% within about a month with my shidas touch
Yeah, do it!
I had a similar touch when I was younger. I’ve worked for Circuit City, Toys ‘R’ Us, and Blockbuster Video. Sadly, Best Buy somehow survived.
Can you... Work for Broadcom? Or Oracle or EA, or something. Just a suggestion.
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I can't wait for this current "A.I." craze to go away. The tech is doofy, useless, wasteful, and a massive energy consumer. This is blockchain nonsense all over again, though that still hasn't fully died yet, unfortunately.
Like blockchain there is some niche usefulness to the technology, but also like blockchain it's being applied to a myriad of things it is not useful for.
Also it’s not fucking ai is it. I actually find the blatant misuse of this term incredibly annoying to be honest.
Arguably you are the one misusing the term. Even painfully mundane tasks like the A* pathfinding algorithm fall under the umbrella of artificial intelligence. It’s a big, big (like, stupidly big) field.
You are right that it’s not AGI, but very few people (outside of marketing) claim that it is.
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The term AI was coined in 1956 at a computer science conference and was used to refer to a broad range of topics that certainly would include machine learning and neural networks as used in large language models.
I don't get the "it's not really AI" point that keeps being brought up in discussions like this. Are you thinking of AGI, perhaps? That's the sci-fi "artificial person" variety, which LLMs aren't able to manage. But that's just a subset of AI.
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It is, machine learning, neural networks and all the other parts in LLMs and generative algorithms like midjourney etc are all fields of artificial intelligence. The AI Effect just means the goalposts for what people think of as "proper" AI are constantly moving.
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Oh good! I remember when they said they couldn't afford to pay independent copyright owners. Now they can pay for the work they stole!
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If I had 10k to leverage I would be shorting the FUCK out of this, it's a bubble and everyone knows it
Market can remain irrational, etc
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When I copy and paste someone else’s work, I get called a plagiarist and get fired.
When OpenAI creates a robot that does it really really really fast, they make enough money to feed the planet hundreds of times over.
I don’t want to live on this planet any more.
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Even its name is full of shit.
Even its name is ~~full of shit.~~ a hallucination
There, fixed it for you.
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Just a speculation bubble, no work no real technos, same as every other fucking ai company
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Can't wait for the AI boom to inevitably pop and all those billions that could have been spent on...literally anything else, go down the drain.
Sounds like the perfect time for artists to sue and get their fair* share of that.
*All of it. They deserve all of it.
Sounds like a bubble.
Let's see for how long.
Why not just withdraw that money in banknotes, and burn it in a stove?
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Great read on the topic: OpenAI Is A Bad Business by Ed Zitron (Where's Your Ed At)
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Not OpenAI, now they will be ClosedAI :
... complete its planned conversion from a nonprofit (with a for-profit division) to a fully for-profit company.
It'S nOt A bUbBlE!
I listened to The Foundering on Sam Altman at the same time as listening to The Power Broker and they weirdly synced up.
- They only have one solution for everything, believing more of that thing will solve everything ("Just one more scrape, just one more scrape of everything that's been said or published anywhere and our next model will be perfect.")
- They don't care for the destruction left in their wake
- They will walk over everyone, including their own family to remain part of the conversation
- The only difference is Robert Moses was constrained to New York
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