I know it's been getting worse over time, but I could still find what I needed after some digging.

Recently it's been like 10 minutes of adjusting search terms, still getting completely useless or irrelevant results, and me just giving up afterwards. Other search engines seem just as bad.

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[–] 160 points 2 years ago (9 children)

*years? Yes. It used to be the bleeding edge of search and now it's just profit driven enshittification like the rest of ai-ridden garbage tech wallstreet bullshit.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Don't forget your glue on your pizza! Can't have a pizza without glue....

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    [–] 86 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    If you use Firefox you can add a Search Engine that removes the google cruft.

    In about:config browser.urlbar.update2.engineAliasRefresh Boolean, hit the plus sign to add. Exit out of that screen. Then go to Search engines in Settings and “Add” [ whatever name you want to call it ] as a new search engine. And paste this URL and save it. https://www.google.com/search?q=%s&udm=14

    You will see that it deletes everything but search when you use it. You can also just use the url but you must replace the %s with your search term, like red+espresso. Example: https://www.google.com/search?q=red+espresso&udm=14

    I'm sure this works for other browsers, I just use Firefox.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I've already added a new search engine like this, but what does the about:config setting do?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Returns the add custom search engine button. Which for some reason, has been hidden by default.

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    [–] 49 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I was honestly getting so frustrated the other day at work when searching for something very specific and coming up empty handed. Tried DuckDuckGo and even fucking Bing and found what I needed in a matter of seconds. Google search is trash now. I have to go to the second page or further just to find something that isn't an ad, AI response, or reddit. None of which are helpful.

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    [–] 41 points 2 years ago* (30 children)

    The results are usually the most clicked, not necessarily the factual links. Others have recommended kagi. I haven’t tried it yet. I remember when the internet started and you had to use them all!

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago* (23 children)

    I'll have to try kagi some time

    EDIT: subscription based... Idk, definite maybe on that one.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (22 children)

    Is that the one that costs money? You can't have a true incognito search if that's the case.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    True, but worth reading their about page and privacy page. Not saying it'll stay this way, but the way they are running is something that makes more sense then being sold as a product to Google. And you aren't getting much of an incognito these days with all the fingerprinting they are doing.

    I will admit kagi search isn't the highest performer, but it's viable. DDG, Start page, etc. Might give you more privacy, or not (hard to tell with DDG these days), but it might be worth trying a different model for a while.

    I miss the days when the internet was truly free, but in lieu of that we have to have something better. Kagi is a start.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago*

    Incognito is on your client side browser in that the browser doesn't retain any trace of the current session once you close the tab. The search engine still knows what you whacked off to.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    You can't have? Or you can't be sure?
    Because you certainly can have. Just because you pay, doesn't mean they will log your searches. In fact Kagi claim they don't. And since their only income comes from paying users. If anyone ever found out they're lying about that, they'd quickly loose a big chink of subscribers and income. As well as get sued for fraud. So it's rather unlikely they do.

    Unlike every other search provider, Kagi is the only one with a business model that ensures it's users are the customer, not the product. When actually using it every day, that's quite obvious in the results. Even when you search for a company directly, it's Wikipedia entry is usually the first result. The the company site is the second.

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    [–] 34 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I shed a tear when quoted strings stopped working

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    I recommend Kagi, I've been using it for about six months now and results - especially small web results like blogs - are so much better. I also have a pretty good time image searching compared to when I was on Google.

    Yes it's paid, but that to me is the price of resisting enshittification. Find a company that isn't a publicly traded for-profit world-burner and pay them for their service. Is the idea of paying for email and search an alien concept to me? Yes. But I'm either paying Google whatever €120 a year in eyeballs on ads and an increasingly worse experience, or I'm paying €80 a year and getting a markedly better experience.

    Now it's up to Kagi and Proton to not turn into shitty companies while other competitors catch up and we have a thriving ecosystem again.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    Kagi is amazing. I absolutely love its' filtering features and I use that forums toggle all the time. It feels like such a more relevant experience for me. I tried it out with the 300 searches limit, but that wasn't even close to enough, turns out I easily use 4 times that in a month and even though it's not cheap it feels like it's worth it.

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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    SEO became too well known and is now filled with bullshit.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Google makes money on ads. They make $300-$400 annually per user by displaying ads.

    They are motivated to tarpit you in order to show you more ads.

    Giving you your results quickly and efficiently costs them revenue.

    Use kagi, or another search engine.

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    yes. use any of the following, in no particular order:

    • ecosia.org - A non-profit certified B corp that plants trees by serving ads in your search results. Bing search underneath.
    • duckduckgo.com - A privacy friendly search engine. Primarily sourced from Bing but mixes in a few other sources.
    • any SearXNG instance - A self-hostable search front-end to various search engines.
    • marginalia.nu - specifically 'random' - An independent DIY search engine that focuses on non-commercial content, and attempts to show you sites you perhaps weren't aware of in favor of the sort of sites you probably already knew existed.
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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Google Maps is utter crap lately too. It seems to be making up locations, and several times in the past month, it’s taken me to the wrong place. It’s getting almost as bad as Apple Maps

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    I went to a low data plan and learned that Google Maps consumes a vast amount of data (relative to my plan limit), and I download all my maps and had location off. 1 single bus route between two pinned locations was 30Mb. Maps and search could be so simple but they are insanely bloated.

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago* (7 children)

    I used to a hater of Kagi but honestly its a damn good alternative search engine. They are doing some actual innovation and are very transparent. I still prefer a good searXNG instance but searxng is more for technical people who understand decentralized meta search instances. Here's my simple guide on search engine alternatives to help you get away from google best you can.

    Google is finally collapsing under the weight of its own greed and lack of innovation. Now other companies are showing up to steal their lunch especial with the big monopoly case going on right now.

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    [–] 16 points 2 years ago*

    I stopped using it last year it got so bad, I ended up using DDG but that’s gotten shit and I’ve found myself back on Google. To me it feels 10% better than it was when I stopped.

    Although everyone’s experiences with Google are so different we’re probably all being A/B tested.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    Yeah, last month I finally had enough and DDG has been alright

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    The problem with DDG is if it doesn't find results it just ignores your search terms and throws whatever shit it wants at you.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    They fucked it all up with that AI bullshit awhile ago and it hasn’t recovered. I use start page now and am much happier.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    The internet has slowly become more and more useless over time since the pandemic. It's fucking impossible to find anything now. Half the time it's like I have better luck doing an lan search on my home network than looking it up on Google and I'm not even very deep into the self hosted everything rabbit hole.

    It's like they want us all to be stupid, uninformed and not know how to do anything.

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    The internet has gotten worse in general, and it's accelerating.
    The vast majority of online content is now AI-generated.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    It is half okay, but only if they are not getting paid to screw up your results. It is a coup against democracy where freedom of information is freedom of the press and is an entire fundamental pillar of democracy. Google's entire business model has always been neo feudalism. A web crawler and search engine is like a library, it must be neutral, objective, and publicly funded as a non profit. Much the same with YT, it is our digital public commons and the most efficient form for information sharing in the primary form of human communication.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I've been using Kagi since ~February and it's changed my views on Search. Beforehand, if use a combination of Google, Bing, DDG, and Brave and rarely find what I needed in satisfactory time. Now I'm typically finding it in the top 5 without all the cruft + have access to a handful of LLM assistants to choose from for other tasks (when needed).

    I've also heard good things about SearXNG.

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    HAHAHAHAHAH no. Google Search has gotten so much worse in the last couple of YEARS more like.

    The reason behind this is not a bug but a feature. Google wants the trip from search to result to take longer as they can show you more ads that way.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I read on here (I think) a couple months ago that adding "before:2023" to your search terms improves results a lot. I've found it to be true. Unless I'm looking for something specifically from the last couple years.

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    [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    It's crap.

    You can use udm14.org though.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    I have fully switched to kagi, it's not perfect but for the average case it's better than google.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Try finding old band photos. Basically impossible

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