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On so many different news items, threads, etc. People are the first to claim pretty much anyone who has made a mistake, or does something they disagree with deserves to die.

Like, do some people not have the capability to empathise and realise they might have been in a similar place if they were born in a different environment…

I genuinely understand, you think a politician who has lead to countless deaths, a war criminal, or a mass rapists deserves to die.

But here people say it for stuff that falls way below the bar.

A contracted logger of a rainforest (who knows if they have the money / opportunity to support their family another way). Deserves to die.

A civilian of Nazi germany of whom we know nothing about their collaboration/agreement with the regime. Deserves to die.

Some person who was a drug dealer and then served their time. Deserves to die.

Like I don’t get it? Are people not able to imagine the kind of situations that create these people, and that it’s not impossible to imagine the large majority of people in these positions if born in a different environment?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Because people use hyperbole and aren’t always serious. How many times have you said “I’m gonna kill you”?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Never. I'd personally be afraid someone might take that seriously.

Though maybe that one's cultural and said more casually where you're from. I've heard it in TV shows, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

How many times have you said that to a complete stranger? People generally use hyperbole with people who understand the hyperbole - the more extreme the hyperbole the more you need to trust the person would understand it. It's the social contract

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I think there’s a part of our brains that treats these stories as fiction—in particular, the kind of folk fiction used to reinforce community mores. The strength of our reaction to such stories signals how strongly we support the standards, not necessarily what we think should be done in real life to those who violate them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago
  1. It's a lot easier to feel like you're not involved when you're behind a screen hundreds of miles away.

  2. A lot of perceived suffering in this world can make a person feel as though a lot of people do on fact deserve to die.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have to ask, is this about the TiL post regarding Soviet Labor camps? Because I saw that right after this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Partly. But it’s been building up in me for the past few months. Like I legitimately see it every day on lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It's the one thing we all deserve, the great equalizer. That's not what you are asking, I know but still.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

We judge others more harshly than ourselves or our friends and family, it's often a tribal artifact of the environment our species grew up and evolved in through its infancy that has in part informed our acceptable behaviors as a social species who relies on groups for survival (justice, altruism, fairness, social contract, etc).

Sometimes it's hyperbole, sometimes it's incorrectly treating people different than ourselves as less than instead of different to, and sometimes someone violates common morality so abjectly that capital punishment is a popular acceptable outcome.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is human nature. It's the same reason you had 20 year olds sucker punching 70 year old asian women during lockdown. Cowardice and a need to lash out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

No. It may be the nature of some subset of people. Those people should die.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Idk anyone who can't figure this out deserves to die.

/s

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Screw this bullshit, stop trying to normalize the deadly atrocious behavior from these right wing zealots

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah. The right wing zealot behaviour of killing anyone you don’t like.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh no, won’t someone think of the people speed running the destruction of our planet and causing suffering to so many innocent people.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know about others, but I don't think anybody deserves to die necessarily. It is faaaaar too merciful a fate for horrible people. I believe the worst of humanity - rapists, murderers, child abusers, etc. - deserve to live long, painful, oh so horrible lives.

My choice would be to put them inside of a 3 meter cube of steel, welded shut, with only a hamster bottle for water, a hole in the bottom for waste, and a nutrient paste dispensing chute. When the prisoner eventually dies, it is bury the whole thing out in the desert to be their unmarked tomb.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because they're a stranger. I don't know them and probably never will. Oh they did something shitty that cost someone else their life? Good, they deserve to die and I hope they burn in hell.

Because I don't know them and they commited something I think is evil. There's no purpose in me humanizing them. I humanize the actual people in life I interact with.

Also its impotent rage

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thats brainless tbh. Thats the type of mindset that makes everyone a slave to their emotions because they all just react without thinking deeply/compassionately.

Its simply a lack of self control and critical thinking that leads people to lose their empathy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok. Don't really care about what some random asshole online thinks I'm just explaining to OP.

I'm not changing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

No worries bud consider it an explanation to OP to nullify yours

Well thats to be expected. Does a fish swim?

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