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[–] 177 points 2 years ago* (10 children)

Countries ranked in descending order by number of school shootings from 2009-2018:

  • United States: 288
  • Mexico: 8
  • South Africa: 6
  • Afghanistan: 3
  • Brazil, Canada, France: 2
  • Azerbaijan, China, Estonia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Kenya, Russia, Turkey: 1

One of these is not like the others. This isn't exactly a fact of life in other parts of the world.

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  • [+] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Those numbers aren't right.

    First, the total-gun-death numbers are not population-adjusted and therefore useless without additional context. The same article does have the population-adjusted numbers and the USA is, predictably, not in the top ten.

    Second, once the numbers are adjusted for population, there are some very strange results. For example, apparently Iraq actually has slightly fewer gun deaths per capita than the USA. Nigeria, the country where Boko Haram is based, has four times fewer gun deaths per capita than the USA?! Clearly the gun-death numbers correspond more to how well records are kept in a country than they do to the actual numbers of gun deaths.

    Oh, and those gun death numbers include suicides, not just murders. Most gun deaths in the USA are suicides. A suicide is technically a gun death, but not usually the sort that people have in mind when discussing a school shooting.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    everything you said is true. i just wanted to add something to the suicide point: owning a gun has been tied with an increased risk of suicide. source

    here’s a quote from the link that i think gives a good summary of the problem:

    “Suicide attempts are often impulsive acts, driven by transient life crises,” the authors write. “Most attempts are not fatal, and most people who attempt suicide do not go on to die in a future suicide. Whether a suicide attempt is fatal depends heavily on the lethality of the method used — and firearms are extremely lethal. These facts focus attention on firearm access as a risk factor for suicide especially in the United States, which has a higher prevalence of civilian-owned firearms than any other country and one of the highest rates of suicide by firearm.”

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    [–] 103 points 2 years ago

    “‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens”

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  • [–] 98 points 2 years ago (6 children)
    1. Force unwanted children into this world
    2. Give no childcare support
    3. Send them to underfunded schools
    4. Offer no mental healthcare programs
    5. Make guns readily available
    6. "Facts of life"
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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I believe the assumption is this only applies to brown children. H'wite childrens obviously go to private school and have top tier medical care.

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    [–] 74 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Trump gets shot at and the country says there is no room for political violence, we wish him well. Children get shot every single day, that’s just a matter of life, child-sized coffin sales sky-rocket.

    But really, why aren’t more politicians being shot? I think if they were the targets instead of innocent children, gun reform would be both swift and severe.

    Now, I’m not saying that political violence is acceptable, but I’m certainly not not saying it.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    Becauss the people who go out and try to solve their problems with violence on a scale that would give us that pattern are the republican base. There are plenty of examples outside of that group, obviously, but even the guy who tried to shoot Trump had been a republican until very shortly before the attempt.

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  • [–] 71 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Children get slaughtered en masse in their classrooms: 😴

    A drag queen reads a children's book to children: 😡

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    The state of everything is so fucked for my brain to even go this direction... But your comment made me think the following:

    Well, in their (the conservative's) heads, yes. A dead kid isn't one that will grow up and eventually vote against them and their hateful ideologies after being around the same things that conservatives demonize.

    Edit: Not implying that conservatives want children dead. (That is clearly not the case given their stance on contraception and women's reproductive rights.) But, that they don't care about kids dying to gun's, because "MUh 2nD amendmEnT RigHTS shAn't be INFRIngeD uPoN", and that they view children that have attended these drag events as having been indoctrinated and mentally harmed/abused. That scares them more.

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago

    Notice how Vance and the other right-wing pricks don't apply the same reasoning to abortion. Nope, in THAT case they can come up with law after law after law to address the issue. When it comes to the lives of children already here? Pfffttt... perish the thought and the child.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago*

    Yeah, in the United States. Not in other western countries. Wonder why, JD? Maybe because it's a "fact of life" that's created and sustained by people like you...

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago

    Conservatism is a deadly cancer that needs to be eradicated to save humanity. There is no place in a modern culture for toxic, hate-based ideologies like conservatism. That's just a fact of life.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago

    JD Vance is a couch fucking sociopath.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago

    School shootings (and JD Vance) are symptoms of a diseased society.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago*

    No, no it isn't.

    -residents of like 98% of the rest of the world

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago

    A fact of American life because of idiotic gun policy.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago

    Just as natural as love between a man and a couch.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago

    .... in America. Fixed that for you

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago* (6 children)

    Ok, so logically GOP presidential candidate shooting are also. Thoughts & prayers & get over it and all that.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    They might end up regretting all that gun support.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Funnily enough, this how he conveyed that message:

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    “You cat ladies just need to make more babies to replace the children killed by gunfire in schools,” said the not insane guy who wants to rule the country and women’s bodies under Project 2025.

    Jokes aside, Trump is clearly falling apart. The Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society have gone all-in on Vance. He’s the real would-be dictator. Once elections become rigged at the federal level, he will be President and your vote won’t matter.

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago*

    at a time like this, a leader should use their pulpit to rally people, make them believe in progress, and cushion the blow.

    this guy just blows the cushion.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    Fact of American life.

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  • [+] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
    [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    So are corrupt, do nothing, hot air spewing politicians. Weird coincidence?

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    He's unfortunately correct. For the wrong reason tho

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    This can only improve Harris's odds in Georgia, right? I mean this certainly a renewed sense of purpose to turn out and vote for Georgian Democrats who we know if they turn out they win.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    I'd say "what the fuck" but I'm not even surprised that he said this. Bro is scum.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So lets issue all the students guns?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Can... you do something about it?

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  • So my take away here is that JD Couchfucker here is saying neither he or Trump are powerful enough to do anything. Is that really the message you want to be sending during your campaign for the highest office in America?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    "Fact of life", Shay Dee Vance is a mentally underdeveloped humanoid. Another, "fact of life" - there is a lot of profit and money to grease politician's hands in those look-alike military gun sales for LARPERS.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Queue the 1980s TV "Facts of Life" theme song parodies.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    JDV is a scumback prick. That's just a fact of life. Our country is an anomaly among developed nations and there's absolutely no way to change it. Just wait until a school shooting happens where one of these assholes sends their kids. Will it still be a fact of life?

    Jk. None of these pricks send their kids anywhere where these things happen.

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