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The Pixel 9 series has way better battery life, but it also delivers improvements to charging. One of those improvements is that the Pixel 9 has higher requirements for fast charging, helping you better know if your charger is truly up to speed.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I don't get it

Why would you want your battery to change so fast? It gets hot and isn't great for the battery. I just want all day battery life and then a trickle change overnight. My current phone does that

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago

BC you forgot and you got 5 min before you got to leave.

Fast charging is best feature we got in last three cycles IMHO

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm just waiting for capacitors to replace batteries. I read a really promising article recently and it said they figured out how to make a capacitor hold more energy much longer which means when that comes to market leaving your phone charging overnight will be a thing of the past.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Capacitors replacing batteries like this, similar to nuclear fusion power, is always only X years away.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

That's not going to happen

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is dumb, just display the charging rate. Why bother with these generic contextless adjectives?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Because many people are not smart. If they buy a 65w charger and see only 60w being pulled they'll complain that either the charger or phone is defective and want a refund.

I would like to see it as an option to enable, at the moment though I just have a few cables that measure/display this for me. It's a useful basic troubleshooting tool with laptops and phones. If you plug them in and dont see any current or only 0.1w, you know there's a problem with the device getting power.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

45W is still not really fast though, Moto is at 50. Wirelessly. Wired at 125.

But to be fair, Apple is at ~30W. And that's just sad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

20W claimed maximum. Actual measured 26W.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Raises the bar? Don't the realme phones come with ridiculous fast charging like 1 kW?

(The number is an hyperbole)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Realme tested a 320W charging brick recently. It charged the battery in under 4 mins.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

And lowers the bar for overheating and longevity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I just got a new phone (reluctantly) and it feels like 90% of the "features" are useless marketing gimmicks.

Most people still use their phones for very similar purposes to 2016 or even 2012. Instead of providing properly optimized software and batteries that last weeks, we get these huge heavy expensive unoptimized pieces of techno garbage. And of course they need fast charging, otherwise you'd be wired to a charter half the time.

I'm practically forced to spend 10€ per month, even if I'm hesitant to buy new stuff, just to have a reasonable phone. That's crazy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm practically forced to spend 10€ per month, even if I'm hesitant to buy new stuff, just to have a reasonable phone. That's crazy.

What? Who forces you to pay that?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Life.

I need a smartphone for my job (authenticator), bank, social life, etc.

Buying a new phone in the range of 500€ and having to replace that every 4-5 years, comes down to about 10€ per month.

Of course I could buy a cheaper phone, but those usually get barely any software updates, which I find rather frightening, and often enough break for other reasons (battery dead, ports worn out, cracked display). So it's not really cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Buying a new phone in the range of 500€ and having to replace that every 4-5 years, comes down to about 10€ per month.

Fair enough, I thought you meant a real subscription of some sorts.

Yeah I definitely agree with you, phones are a necessity nowadays and it's not getting better

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can get a good phone for less than that. Also a 1yo phone is even more cheap so if you need a cheaper alternative...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Not much less. The cheaper ones all have significant drawbacks.

Used phones might be cheaper, but they still rely on someone else shelling out money.

My problem is not my personal financial situation, it's societal. We throw out tons of resources (natural, but also human) out of the window for products that have zero benefit. It's extremely wasteful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

And performance, and privacy, and …

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Don't use these super fast charging rates. They aren't good for your battery.

I got an ASUS ROG phone because you can set it to charge slower, and stop at 80%. The battery longevity will be better.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My OnePlus 8T lasted over five years and to be honest would probably still be ok, and it charged at 65 W. That's way faster than the pixel 8 pro I use now. Batteries have gotten way better than they used to be.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It probably lost 20+% of it's max charge in that time. That's what I'm talking about.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

That's fairly normal for any battery, regardless of charging rate. I have a OnePlus 9 and haven't really noticed any huge battery degradation, my phone still easily makes it to the end of the day.

And if not, I charge it for just a couple minutes and get half of the charge back. It's pretty great. The newest phones can even charge at 100W+. You barely need to bother plugging it in overnight, just plug it in when you take a shower or have breakfast or something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I know, but I've had that with every device, no matter the charging speed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Super fast charging damaging your batteries hasn't been true for a while. Charging standards like supervooc push the heat to the charger and charge two battery cells simultaneously. This reduces heat generation significantly than if you were to charge traditionally. My 15w samsung smartphone generates much more heat while charging compared to my 67w realme smartphone which stays cooler even while charging at quadruple of speeds.

Other smartphones slow the charging rate when the display is on. Phones which support supervooc can charge your phone at the same speed regardless of display being on or off.

My phone also has a smart charging feature where it can slow charge the battery at night & limit it to 80%. In the morning just before I remove the phone from the charger it will finish charging to 100%.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Things like splitting the battery into multiple cells helps with this.

[–] bdonvr 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That bar is still way slow. My phone can charge at 100watts, 0 to 100% in less than 30 minutes. Most American brands are way behind.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How long will the battery last? In lifetime I mean

[–] bdonvr 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean it really doesn't get as hot as I'd had thought it would which is apparently the big longevity killer. And the way they help manage these huge wattages is splitting the battery into multiple cells.

Chinese brands have had super fast charging for more than 5 years now and I don't think I've heard too much in the way of massively increased battery degradation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

That's nice to know! How long have you had yours and have you notice any difference in battery time?