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Why I Prefer Minetest To Minecraft - YouTube (www.youtube.com)
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[-] [email protected] 82 points 10 months ago

Haven't watched the video - just my thoughts...

Minetest (specifically Mineclone2) is an impressive feat, and a very faithful reproduction of the original. I pretty much used the Minecraft fandom wiki to progress through the game. Hours of fun was had without handing money to M$.

I only really stopped because the redstone functionality wasn't fully implemented.

Hats off to the devs on that project regardless

[-] [email protected] 61 points 10 months ago

Just fyi Minclone2 changed its name to Voxellibre

[-] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago

And it is no longer trying to clone Minecraft. They are moving beyond.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

And there's a separate effort called Mineclonia.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I haven't had the urge to play it recently, so I haven't tried it since the name change. I heard they were diverging a bit from being a Minecraft clone, are there many large changes?

[-] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

The redstone is a large feat indeed. I started working on that but had to stop due to time constraints. Its still in my head though.

All in all there is just too much great stuff someone with a little drive and a little coding knowledge can do in the foss ecosphere.

[-] [email protected] 58 points 10 months ago

Anyone got a summary? I really wish people would stop posting links to videos without providing a synopsis.

[-] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago

TLDR: The creator prefers minetest to minecraft.

Hope this was helpful.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Thanks, friend! Also, are you saying the creator of Minecraft, the creator of Minetest, or the creator of the video?

Curse you, syntactic ambiguity!!! xD

[-] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago

As it clearly states it is obviously god, who is often referred to as the creator.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Lol.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago

Notes while I'm watching:

  1. The "vibe" is different - in my head I translated this to "he likes the GUI more"
  2. Minetest has zero "story" / progression (so no Ender Dragon to gear up for & fight) - it's purely a sandbox experience.
  3. better performance, apparently runs on potato laptops pretty well
  4. Mods are built-in, and don't require tools like Forge or whatever to tweak a jar file ⬅️ THIS is cool!
  5. Customization via the Settings menu

The "built-in support for mods" caught my eye. That's pretty slick, and a headache with MC.

tl;dr - it runs on just about everything, and focuses on giving the player an easy-to-mod "sandbox" to play in.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

All the mods are written with Lua and run in a sandbox afaik so it isn't really the same as Minecraft mods

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[-] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago

I primarily prefer it because it does pretty much all the Minecraft stuff I want it to do, and it's got other games available as well. Plus, completely Linux compatible and no Microsoft account!

[-] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago

And you have no telemetry, no chat restrictions and its free.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Exactly! Better all around for me. The player base isn't as big, but I'm not really an online player.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I agree that the playerbase isnt huge. I do think a small dedicated playerbase is pretty nice though.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Yes, it often is!

[-] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

It isn't that Minetest is good. It is that Minecraft as enshitified

[-] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Maybe Bedrock Edition. I've had zero problems with the Java version. Then again, I play alone. Lol.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Idk I run my own PO3 server on Java and everything but the launcher is fine. I'm sure Bedrock is completely molested though.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I completely get where people are coming from with that opinion, but I've been playing MC for almost 15 years, and I'm having just as much if not more fun with the game now as I did at any other point in its development.

Minetest is super cool and can be very fun. I play a bit on it as well, but exclusively advertising for it on the platform of hur dur mineshit sucks, which isn't necessarily what you're doing, I just see that a lot, definitely isn't the best way to go.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Yes, it's certainly changed for the worse since I've played it. I quit fairly soon after they announced that I would need to eventually migrate to a Microsoft account. Seeing some of the things they've done since then doesn't make me miss it!

[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Sounds super cool :o ... Am still kinda salty about M$ blocking my account and holding my copy of Minecraft (that I paid Mojang for, well before it was Microsoft's!) hostage because they want my phone number, though. 😠

... Also I kinda wanna know if it's got the moddage I love about Minecraft, but am afraid to ask because I'm stuck on a laptop that can't really run much without getting all melty 😅

[-] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Yep, I didn't convert either of my accounts over as well.

I would just try it and see what you think of it! It's completely free. Minetest is the program you install on your computer, and then there are lots of different games that you can download and try inside of Minetest. There's more besides Minecraft-likes that you can try, and there are definitely mods available. I never modded Minecraft though, so I'm not sure how they compare.

As to system requirements, it could run pretty well on a six year old Android phone the last I tried. It might be worth a shot on your laptop! Be aware that it'll probably be a somewhat different experience than Minecraft, but not necessarily in a bad way!

[-] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago

I played quite a bit of solo mineclone2/voxelibre. Really good stuff with a surprisingly short wishlist on my part.

It's silly, but one of my favorite things is that it fires up the launcher in under a second. Reminds me of when software wasn't bloated halfway to hell. 😁

[-] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

The game takes a minute or two to launch though

[-] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Really? Mine launches in a few seconds. Maybe I haven't explored enough. 😁

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

For voxellibre?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

When I create a world for the first time it might take a couple minutes, but after the initial creation it's really quick to load up a game

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Its been a while since I played Minetest but I remember exploration being very subpar compared to Minecraft but the engineering aspects (I think the redstone equivalent is called mese?) to be far better.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

It is what ever you want it to be. Minetest is just a Voxel engine. You install games separately

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

So I tried VoxelLibre recently and I have three main papercuts:

  • The lack of dual wielding (and perhaps crits and other Combat Update things).
  • Shift clicking items doesn't do the same thing as Minecraft in a lot of cases. Shift clicking armour doesn't equip it, for example.
  • I think sometimes there's a keyboard combination for opening the inventory (shift+I?) that I keep accidentally hitting when I try to move.

Still, it's an interesting project and Iook forward to how it continues.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Voxel libre isn't Minetest. It runs on the Minetest engine but it is separate.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Minetest gets scary when you look at the code and see that the engine they use is basically abandoned and will never get Wayland support. Afaik?

[-] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

It's not like they're stuck on some outdated proprietary engine like RPG Maker. Minetest is under active development, with a small list of dependencies that are also under active development. It is under no particular rush to get off of X11/Xwayland.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Thanks :) it is a bit confusing

Irrlicht is discontinued but I think it is under a different name now

[-] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Xwayland

Is that a typo or is that distinct from just straight Wayland?

[-] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

https://wayland.freedesktop.org/xserver.html

It provides backwards compatibility for running X apps under Wayland.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

That sounds useful!

[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Why do you think it is abandoned? There is a lot of work happening.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Individual apps, particularly full-screen games, shouldn't need "Wayland support"(quotes because what that means will vary between implimentations).

Now, if you have to install xorg on a system that doesn't have it in order to play a game? Yeah that would suck, although games are on my personal shortlist of application categories that should always be run from a flat-pack/equivalent and/or containerized wherever possible.

Now I think about it, why don't (anti-cheat)games just run their own VM's and "calibrate" those versus any weird system variables? Seems like a better anti-cheat than hacking-my-kernel-to-make-sure-I'm-not-hacking-the-game...

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

It's open, it's free, and it's fun! It's got a ton of mods and custom games to make it whatever you want out of a voxel game. That's everything I need.

Shoutouts to the Asuna game.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Played some Voxellibre for the first time after seeing this. I fell to the most classic of blunders: I tried to spam click to kill an enemy.

My Minecraft skill did not translate.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Does anyone know how to "fly" with double space?

And how to fly faster?

These were big issues I had with Mineclone2 or how it is now called

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