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[–] [email protected] 502 points 2 months ago (124 children)

No shit. Now do Amazon, apple, meta, Microsoft, Disney and all the food conglomerates. Then it will have been a good start.

[–] [email protected] 167 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They've got Amazon in the works

Amazon

[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 months ago

Would be nice if we didn't let them kill off so many other businesses first before doing something about it.

[–] [email protected] 117 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Too big to fail financial industry should go first.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago

oil, pharma... most of all critical aspects of every day life is controlled by oligopolies

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I still don't understand how the Californian government bailed them out when they were bankrupt, yet they were allowed to remain an independent company? Why didn't the government take full control?

Electricity in cities in the Bay Area that have their own municipal power company (like Palo Alto and Santa Clara) is literally 1/3 the cost of PG&E.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

FUUUUUUUUUUUCK PG&E

Fuck them. If there was ever a case to be made for government owned utilities (and like why is that even a debate in the first place?) these assholes would be the poster child.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago

Cable companies too please.

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[–] [email protected] 212 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is a big deal, but just a reminder that this is the District (trial) court, so the next step would be the Circuit Court of Appeals, followed by an appeal to the Supreme Court. There may be some intriguing injunctions that come out of this, but we're years away from a final disposition.

For the curious, this one came out of the DC Circuit, informally known to be the most technically and administratively savvy circuit, as it deals with a LOT of nitty gritty stuff coming out of Federal agencies.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I was about to comment that this is going to be appealed, and unless something changes with SCOTUS, my money is in it being reversed to some degree.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

depends on when it hits the supreme court, for sure.

didn't someone just say google was 'very bad' and should be 'shut down'? ...someone that helped stack the court to its current composition?

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 2 months ago (8 children)

this is why it's silly that people are mad at mozilla for buying a privacy friendly ad company to try and break the monopoly.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Its seriously absurd. I hate ads, but there's realistically not a better option to profit when providing free software and services like Mozilla is doing. Investing into ads that don't violate your privacy is a great decision. I don't know what the hell people want from them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

They want them to meet all of their impossibly high and contradictory standards at the same time. For free. What's so hard about that?? /s

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

People don't seem to realise that developing a browser (a real one, not Chrome with a different paint job), web rendering engine, having the top-notch security expertise that building a modern web engine requires, plus being on the board that decides web standards is expensive.

It's honestly at a similar scale and complexity to OS development.

We're talking hundreds of millions a year to do the work that Mozilla needs to do. People who say "oh I'd chip in a dollar or two, but only if they get rid of all other funding" as if it's feasible kind of get on my nerves because they clearly don't see the big picture.

Any time Mozilla tries to diversify their income while still being broadly privacy-respecting they're branded as evil or too corporate. Any time they ask for donations they're being greedy beggars. When they take Google's money they're shills for big tech. They can't win. People want Mozilla to work for free.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 months ago

FUCK YEAH!!! NOW BREAK THOSE BASTARDS UP!!!!

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fine: About $3.50

Punitive damages: lol

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago

The fine isnt important, its if any breaking up of the company comes of it

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Oh boy, can't wait for this one to be thrown out by our totally not rigged, definitly for the people supreme Court.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Clarence Thomas needs a new RV, which one will google buy him?

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Cool, now actually enforce that judgment

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

America needs to pick up the old ways and start going after monopolies with a sledge hammer to break them into tiny pieces again.

and pass laws that don't let them pull an ATT and buy back all their fragments and recongeal into an even bigger, more dangerous monopoly than it was before like some kinda fucked up liquid metal terminator of capitalism.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Maybe we should not let companies to work in a lot of areas. For example Amazon, SaaS IaaS Paas Ecommerce, ARM processors, among others. Maybe we should contain megadiversified enterprises??

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Okay, now loop in reddit's bullshit exclusivity agreement to search results and make it so no one can favor any one search engine crawler or demand payment to be shown in search. If your content is publicly accessible it should be fair game to all.

Most companies will want their site to show up on other search engines but they knew what they were doing, you only search for it on google to find results because google's own are an SEO ad riddled mess.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Mark my words! the outcome of this will be like a mountain giving birth to a mouse.

Microsoft came out of such antitrust lawsuit unscathed and a decade later went back to pushing its browser down everyone's throat.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

A mountain giving birth to a mouse? Is that a translation from another language? I'm not being critical, it's just oddly specific and bizarre.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago

Finally, some good fucking news

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Might not do much for the upcoming Manifest v3 doomsday but at least the current government recognises the ills of big tech as it currently stands.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago

we have so many freaking monopolies now a days. we really need to keep companies from owning so much. bring back the media limits and no company should be able to own multiple areas of healthcare and such.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

Nice.. Now do it.. Break them

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

But there is an alternative, search engines that say that are independent but then come crashing down when Bing goes down, which belongs to another convicted yet still existing monopoly.

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