Can we work on expanding existing fiber so most places get at least a single gig fiber first?
this post was submitted on 27 Jul 2024
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I have a feeling the people making fiber internet faster aren't the same people installing it in neighborhoods.
Google also isn't the people making fiber faster. It's scientists in labs
https://www.popsci.com/technology/fiber-optic-wavelength-record/
So you are proving their point, not to be a dick, but theyre the ones financing both so I agree with who you responded to that they shiuld allocate their investments into expanding their customer base before improving it for the existing customer base.
Last I recall, Google was trying (they obviously want the money) but was receiving pushback from legacy ISPs and the local governments they have agreements with. Is that not the case?
I'm not sure. I could see that happening but it seems like they aren't expanding in areas they already have service set up in. For example in my area it is available in the city and surrounding suburbs but won't expand that area to any of the surrounding towns. This is in Western New York, specifically Erie County that has a decent sized population of townships outside of Buffalo and its adjoining burbs.
I feel like the cost of running lines of fiber optics hits a brick wall if x amount of miles is needed per available customers and Google is never going to expand outside of Metropolitan service for that reason. But that's my 100% unfounded guess based off nothing.
Google basically gave up because even with their bankroll, dealing with the regulatory bullshit monopolies current providers had a lot of places was prohibitive.
We don't have to make everything perfect everywhere before we make improvements to something.
We have more than enough resources to increase availability, and to improve existing connections.
This wouldn’t be for a single customer. It’s 50 gig PON, which would serve 32-64 different customers. I’m not an engineer, but I’m assuming it will pave the way for 2.5-5 Gbps services.
Most companies are currently switching from GPON (2.5 gig shared 32 ways), to XGSPON (10 Gbps split between 32-64 customers).
The company I work for has been deploying XGSPON on Nokia transport for a few years now. It’s very nice.
Edit: I wasn’t real specific on how it’s split. So that 50 Gbps feed is sent down a single fiber to a splitter, which is often in the field in an AP cabinet. From there fiber that actually goes to the customer’s premise gets connected. It feels a little dirty splitting like some sort of old coax system, but it makes rolling out fiber to the home much, much quicker.
I'm shocked that Google Fiber hasn't yet been added to the list of services they've shut down because they got bored of them.
Maybe that's still to come.
I thought most of the google fiber rollouts where constantly stuck in legal battles with the telecoms. I know here in my state, att basically blocked it constantly by claiming they didn't have the resources to move their wires to another spot on the public poles.
Well, you have to see, but Google Fiber is a division of Alphabet. Although the closest thing to that was in 2016 when it halted its expansion plans.
Getting customers to have a faster internet connection should mean that they visit more sites/do more searches which should mean more ad impressions, which should mean more pathways to revenue generation for Google. Customers not having access to fast internet is an impudence to Google's future revenue generation.
You can collect a lot of data about someone, and then send them a lot of ads at 50Gbps.
In a stunning turn of events, Google killed the project because it was boring and wasn't Search.
Not before they embed chat into it.
You mean AI.
Man... I wish. My area still doesn't even have symmetric gigabit speeds. I'm on a 300mbps package currently with uploads peaking at ~25mbps.
The old cable companies are clinging to their coax! Let DOCSIS die!
Every few months I check to see if anyone's built fiber to my area or if I'm still stuck with the choice between shit tier cable marketed as 1.2gbit (but rarely even gets halfway there, often below a tenth of that), something else that's barely better than what we had twenty years ago, and wireless claiming to be 5G but performs like crap for everyone I know who's tried it
I've only been looking for the last dozen or so years...
So damned sick of the bureaucratic bullshit
Meanwhile the fiber rollout isn't going well here because the bottom price sub-subcontractors f-ed up driveways and sidewalks so much they're no longer allowed to install fiber in places.
Crying in german. Multiple friends of mine who live in city centers of huge cities still have 16Mbit connections.
We have fibre in Cambodia, but... It's mainly sub 100Mbps for affordable lines. 1Gb worldwide would be great first!
How long before pop ups are back and commercials are sent to anything you are doing online.
I am surprised that this is a major event, I would have thought this would be a relatively simple progression of the tech.
True. It'd actually be a major event if it survives the 'Google Honeymoon'.
It’s about time for this. I’ve developed my home system capable of 100G. WAN connection is the final piece.
What kind of firewall do you have that can handle that amount of bandwidth?
Much bandwidth for a DDoS <3
This is the first step towards Google owning your very thoughts.