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teach the 12 apostles dialectical materialism via the coconut tree story
Learned how to write, so he could write his own definitive autobiography.
Just track down a scribe, way faster.
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I wouldn't've cursed an innocent fig tree, that's for fuckin sure
Probably appeared to Paul in person before ascension, because fuck Paul sounds like a grifter.
I'm not religious, but I think about this a lot. Like, if Jesus was real but Paul was just a grifter and not "divinely inspired" it explains away a lot of the weird new testament doctrine.
paul was an agent of rome sent to subvert and coopt jesus' revolutionary anti-imperialist movement, beginning the process of transforming that message into one compatible with the ideological superstructure of the roman empire, a process that culminated with constantine and the council of nicaea after three centuries of murdering "heretics"
I think this theory is better if he wasn't specifically sent, but just a guy saying tons of shit to be famous/wealthy/etc. and Rome allowed his words to spread because they were less confrontational. These things were the "systemic" defense of an existing base-superstructure system.
he started off as a pharisee, a member of the comprador regime directly persecuting the early christians before his nominal conversion. so i agree, i'm not saying paul was like a roman equivalent of a cia agent or something. but he was part of the system, as you say.
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There's also the fact that most of Paul's odder statements, like banning women from leadership, are not by him at all. Only about half his epistles are actually by him or his immediate inner circle.
FWIW, I don't think Paul was a grifter, I think he was a former grifter who became a sincere convert after some weird shit happened to him, and unfortunately like Evrart in Disco Elysium he was just so slimy it drips off him onto the page.
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Guy who killed a bunch of christians until they became too popular: “g-guys! Trust me! I will invent catholicism and be the true successor of Jesus!”
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i simply would have established communism
Polymorph into a bird and fly the fuck away. Jesus knew magic, man USE IT.
At which point? I'm guessing the crucifixion but it'd be a sick way to end the sermon on the mount or wrecking the temple.
When the fuzz started breathing down on his neck, peace out on those roman fools.
Hang out with more lepers and prostitutes
and arm them
I probably would have existed since I'm pretty sure the Jesus everyone talks about is pretty much a myth (probable) or an amalgamation of traits from other real people (possible).
there were probably a lot of cool Judean resistance fighters that we'll probably never know anything about
And other myths (probable).
Didn’t non biblical/christian romans attested to Jesus’ crucifixion? He was real, but he was Joseph Smith/L Ron Hubbard plus 3000 years to obfuscate his activities
I don't know nearly enough to wade into the discussion but I've definitely seen credible scholars say that he was certainly a real guy and other credible scholars say that he was certainly not a real guy sooo 
As a true centrist I think half of Jesus existed. The crucifixion must've looked real weird
I mean there were thousands of guys calling himself the messiah back then. Thousands of guys getting crucified for the same thing. Jesus being one of the thousands isn’t far fetched. I’m just curious how he managed to be more charismatic than the others. There’s more evidence to suggest he’s just a guy than there is evidence to suggest his existence is purely fictional
i know little myself but "certainly not a real guy" does not seem like a serious position (nor does "Certainly a real guy" for that matter but less so)
what i've heard is that if jesus were any other guy, the level of information we have about him would be considered enough to assume he very likely existed in some form. but since he's the guy people get real weird about proving or disproving
From what I've read (and it's been a while) I don't recall ever reading non biblical accounts of Jesus from the time of his supposed life. We know that a church that appears in the bible during the time of Jesus was built some time after he allegedly died so that's already... problematic. Some scholars have pointed out that Jesus got a lot of juice in the years after he was shooting bushes with laser eyes and raising the dead and then resurrected by his dad who is also himself - but to me that's like saying since I see a lot of Garfield movies, comics and coffee mugs in 2024 that therefore Garfield is or was a real cat because no one was pimping Garfield before he entered the zeitgeist as a character beloved by the commonfolk.
I dunno. Just my opinion.
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I would have not tried to reform the local religious institution. that's a surefire way to get got.
I'm more of a lay-in-the-cut complainer and eye roller. gesture subtly toward the guy in the big hat with my chin and mutter, "this fuckin' guy."
live to be like 85, smokin' fat doinks, carve some shit outta wood maybe.
Use my knowledge of advanced prosthetics (omniscience) and carpentry (trade school) to construct a set of breakaway arms and legs, hiding my real limbs in a secret compartment in my cross.
Wouldn't've died.
honestly i think he did pretty good
i guess it'd be nice to try to explicitly say communism is cool constantly but idk if it would matter much in the end
protracted people's war
Protracted Judean People's War
Nah, protracted war of the Judean people, you revisionist
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I wouldn't have gotten executed, skill issue tbh
Oh yeah they had like a bunch of soldiers with spears and swords and shit? Yeah well just don't get caught loser
I'd have just killed all the soldiers with my divine power or whatever
I woulda beem too busy shitting to do much
I do not presume to know better than the Lord
This is why you don’t rule over a legion of demons, loser
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Probably just shot some hoops with the boys.
I would simply invent a machine gun. The prophecy says that I needed to sacrifice my life for humanity. Doesn’t say that I needed to be a meek ass pussy
I would educate, agitate, and organize.
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The human body is partially water.
I would turn that into wine if you attack me.
I also would not have claimed to be the child of god.
Jesus didn't claim to be the child of God. He claimed he was God ("I am THAT I Am") and when someone suggested he was the child of God, he didn't deny it.
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I would've looked straight into the camera and said I support LGBTQ people and then made out with Paul.
I wouldn't have sieged Leningrad, just surge rushed it and took it immediately.
More seriously I would have done the thing Mohammed did and insisted upon not translating my word, so that it would be harder to corrupt (still allows for shit like including a bunch of discussion about my words, but at least the words are still there untouched). Also I'd hire a scribe or something to write things down in my time, so it would be definitive. And I'd talk a lot more about how being rich doomed you to hell, like he did in that book that's no longer part of the main canon
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