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[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is seriously messed up:

He then concluded that the “best humane alternative to genocide” is to “virtualize” these people: Imprison them in “permanent solitary confinement” where, to avoid making them insane, they would be connected to an “immersive virtual-reality interface” so they could “experience a rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.”

Yarvin’s disturbing manifestos have earned him influential followers, chief among them: tech billionaire Peter Thiel and his onetime Silicon Valley protégé Senator J.D. Vance

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's a real thing that someone said?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Apparently. It's also roughly the plot to The Matrix. And to Halo4, to an extent. And that episode of Black Mirror

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Pretty much "Science fiction warns us of the evils of building the Torment Nexus. Let's tell people why a Torment Nexus is really great and build one!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The only possible positive use for the torment nexus is to put torment nexus supporters in it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

How about we just outlaw and not build orphan crushing machines?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

thats the idea. We will hook up people to use them like batteries and tell everyone on the outside its not horrible, painful, torture because we have them in a virtual utopia. Can I go to the utopia. no its just for bad people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

They wrote a book saying that, yes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is that from one of those "rationalist" influencers?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yes, Curtis Yarvin, writing under the pen name Mencius Moldbug

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago

That and they're on the pedo peddlers Rolodex. It's starting to scream of CYA.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

Right? Who is surprised the openly fascist fascists are fascists? Peter Thiel was a fascist in college. Elon Musk talks about eugenics all the time. It’s not like they’ve kept their political views a secret.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Peter Thiel literally wrote a fuckin essay on why he thinks democracy isn't compatible with what he calls "freedom".

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

I hate that assholes like this have so much influence over our lives.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

“Democracy prevents me from doing everything I want to do without consequences” —Thiel

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Poor Thiel must be so stupid and naive to believe he won't be someone they come after if the fascists seize power. Maybe not right away, but they'll get around to it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Every fascist is gambling with their life. Thiel is betting he’s less likely to get the long knives than the Roy Cohn/“don’t ask don’t tell” treatment. And it isn’t a terrible gamble. He wants to be the King James the Misogynist of technofascist America. The Frederick the Great of Silicon Valley.

My bet though is that he’ll get a long knife or a short rope.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

They fail to understand that power is ultimately useless. It will just be taken by someone else who wants the same and then you wind up with a knife to the Gooch.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I really fucking hate that they steal their company names from Tolkien.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This would make for a good dystopic movie. I do not want to live in it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I'm sure nothing that is happening has to do with Biden's plan on taxing harder the 1%...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I want to support the SAME people that Billionaire's support because Billionaires HISTORICALLY only do what's BEST for the WORKING Class like me!