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[-] [email protected] 107 points 1 year ago

I don't authorize you to close the account.

We are the bank. We don't authorize you to bank with us.

I don't know what they think their next move is. It seems pretty clear to me that the bank has won. Anyway…

[-] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

That's illegal, I signed it crosswise so you are beholden to your half but I am free of all responsibility and obligation.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

They know what's going to happen. It's just a vertical for them to get into an uproar about their sovereign rights.

[-] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Huh. Call me provincial, but I had no idea that sovereign citizens existed outside of America. The idea of a Cypriot sovcit never occurred to me.

[-] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago

In Australia I knew I guy who was a SovCit and he would do stupid things like quote the bill of rights. We'd say "what bill of rights?" Australia doesn't have one. All his info came from the US and he just followed it with realising none of it was relevant in a different country.

[-] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago

To be fair pretty much all the US sovcit stuff isn't relevant or applicable in the US either

[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True. But things like the UCC are real laws. Sovcits just hilariously misinterpret them. There is no such law in other countries. Plus sovcit stuff is based on common law. It makes even less sense in civil law jurisdictions.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

I did expect Australian and British sovcits, but didn't expect Greek ones.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn't expect Spanish SovCits...

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

No-one expects The Spanish SovCit!

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I don't know man. Idiots are everywhere.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

None of it is relevant in the USA either, it’s all bullshit.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Were they one of the lost idiots waving a Trump flag during the Victoria lockdown protests? I still cringe to this day.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Fortunately I haven't bothered keeping up with him for many years, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was doing that. And protesting vaccinations too probably.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

There is a similar movement to SovCits that is at least properly adapted to other countries (specifically the Commonwealth and Ireland's) laws called "Freeman on the Land."

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We have people in Canada who demand their first amendment rights and put Trump stickers on their trucks. These people are not the smartest.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

We call them "autonomous" in the Netherlands, and Germany has "imperial citizens".

Everywhere has its own flavour of these morons thanks to the Internet. And they often literally copy the talking points, and occasionally even laws.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure they're called "wappies" in the Netherlands

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Well, Autonomen are a flavour of Wappies :P

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

We have a few so-called sovereign citizens in the UK.

And ONE actual sovereign citizen.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

that would of course be count Binface, who is a space alien and thus obviously is only subject to any human law in so far as that he chooses to go along with it.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They have been identified in 26 countries.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

the internet was a mistake

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It is effectively a memetic virus, and there's no SCP foundation to implement quarantine procedures...

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It's nice to know America doesn't have ALL the idiots

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

in general, things do exist out of the U.S, its just people in the U.S do it more publicly. Its like racism, and how some people think U.S is the most racist due to media and social media, its actually very far from that on the general scale of things when compared to other countries.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The anti-vax conspiracy crowd in Britain is heavily SovCit. They seem to think the magna Carta means they can be selfish arseholes

[-] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

Let me make sure I follow what happened here... He got a bunch of paperwork he presumably needed to sign in several places? Instead of doing that he put a postage stamp (?) on top of the pile and "signed across" it?

Am I reading that correctly?

[-] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago

So it would seem. What that means in sovcit land I know not.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm still trying to wrap my head around this apparent notion that signing a stamp is supposed to have some official function lol I'm assuming it's something he dreamt after a particularly large meal

[-] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

I found an article that explains the stamp thing. And it's just as stupid as you'd expect it to be.

https://www.vox.com/2016/2/9/10942860/sovereign-citizens-movement

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That made my head hurt 😵

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

According to the FBI, which considers this a domestic terrorist movement,

Ahahahahaha

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It is though. They are violent sometimes.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

A 2014 survey asked US law enforcement officials to rank terrorist threats to the United States. They ranked sovereign citizens as the highest threat — with Islamic extremists coming in second.

Jeez

I can't imagine a country that ranks it's own citizens as the highest terrorist threat

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think he signed, "The authorized representative of [name]." as opposed to just his name.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

I always wonder where and how these crazy sovcits are after all this time. October 2023 is quite a long time ago. Like I wonder if they're homeless, if they ever got back on their feet after everything they do fails.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Yes. The answer to their question is yes, it does look like a termination letter to me.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

excuse me, what do you mean "my country"? not very sovereign of you.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Are they asking a trick question?

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

At least the Discordians were harmless.

Well, mostly. Some are dire.

This is just embarrassing.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Harmless until they start rolling out golden apples. :)

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

How did I know the man would be called George.

God I love Greece.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Seems to be Cyprus from the letterhead.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

"Signed across them"? What is that even supposed to mean?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

can we trick them all into going the same place

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Archangelos Micheal.... Come on... (Second line on the return letter)... Ugh.

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