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[–] [email protected] 148 points 3 months ago (18 children)

Dark read, but this needs to be said. This is all for show.

For any Trump voters reading this, I challenge you to go back and find any coherent points of actual operational improvement these people talked about. Hopes and dreams don't count. Solid steps to some sort of better life was never once mentioned from any of these people.

You're being suckered. Again.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Donny stole secrets about nuclear missile subs and showed them around. If that doesn't phase these weirdos nothing will.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Worse than showing, that treasonous motherfucker sold some to the Saudis.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

There was an epidemic of CIA assets all around the world getting murdered, like dozens of them, right after he had (it later emerged) asked for a bunch of classified intelligence about the identities of foreign assets.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I forgot about that part! Yeah, good recollection. So worse than the worse, Trump got our spies and agents killed. His cult is insane.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don’t think it was American CIA agents; I think it was third parties that the CIA was working with.

Not that that makes it much better. He also said that it was fine when the Saudis killed an American reporter, because they give us a bunch of money, or when the Iranians attacked an American military base and put a bunch of US troops in the hospital with serious injuries.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You get an upvote from me, because unfortunately, we live in a timeline where this is more likely than not.

God dammit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

"More likely than not" is soft-pedaling the case a bit, but yeah.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago (8 children)

I was driving from Florida to Wyoming after Trump got shot and i was surprised by how little people seemed to care. I did not over hear a single conversation about it or about Trump at all. In the hotels with the news on, including Fox, the TV was ignored. Most other places had the TVs tuned to sports. This is very different from what I have seen in years prior (2016 & 2020). It is weird seeing practically nobody give a shit in places lile Arkansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Wyoming, etc.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. I was worried right after it happened, like this is gonna be when everything changes. As far as I can tell, no one cares outside the GOP outrage machine. People are still wanting to vote for Trump which isn’t ideal, but it’s wild to me how little people give a shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Honestly, I keep forgetting it. I think for the magabrained and/or Fauxbrained, this is like their 9/11, but I don't think most normal people really care all that much.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Hey I live in one of those states.

The people in the city have learned to shut the fuck up about politics. Everyone has already had that conversation a thousand times. They know how it will go, and we've distanced ourselves from the people who won't shut the fuck up about it.

If it were a movie, it would be the quiet tense part where everybody looks at each other but no one says anything for fear of setting off the bomb in the middle of the room.

You know who the people are and what will set them off, you give them space. And you watch them for mood swings. If ol Carmen comes in to work like a bat outta hell, you give him a LOT of space.

We're talking about it here, but we're doing it with people we know, over text, or in person.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I had a very similar experience, I was driving across Nebraska and stopped in North Platte for the night before I found out what happened. Nobody was talking about it at the restaurant I ate at, brewery I stopped at, and the next morning the little dinner I ate at full of old man locals. I overheard talk of farming, expense of running their farms and businesses, but not one person mentioned Trump or the attempt. I don't know what's going on but it felt like I was on a different plane of existence from where the attempt happened.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

My guess is the second it was established it came from one of their own they just shrugged it off as one lone crazy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Hard to maintain the persecution complex when it is one of their own radicals attacking them. Of course some online are trying regardless.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Religious people can be extra. They have ways of justifying it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Same. I was eating at the Cowboy Cafe in Dubois, Wy. between Mason and Landen, Wy. (good food) before heading to the Tetons when it happened. News was talking about it and no one cared. Literally. I was rather shocked at the non-response.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I live in Jackson! Enjoy the Tetons. Crazy how hot it is though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah, it hit 93 while rafting on the snake river just past the dam the day we went out. Glad the water was cold lmao.

Still, it was worth it. Jackson is beautiful, too bad it's so damned expensive or I'd come more often!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Hopefully people are just tired of the chaos and drama that Pedo Donald constantly brings with him. It’s been nearly a decade of putting up with him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I swear from the bits I saw from the RNC that the magabrained are rubbing one out over their Allah supposedly saving donnie from a bullet.

It's good to hear that even the base may not care all that much (with the exception of the terminally online types).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Americans are so accustomed to freedom, comfort and luxury, they take all of it for granted. Of course everyone is sticking their head in the sand: if you don't have a sense of what you stand to lose, of course you aren't going to voluntarily take on a little bit of discomfort to try to stop it.

Hard times make hard men, hard men make soft times, soft times make soft men, soft men make hard times <- we are right here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People keep saying it "Won't matter" and that living under Trump "Was better days"

I think if they actually jogged their own fucking memory they'd scream in horror

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I think at least some of the people saying that are just saying for the coping mechanism. They know.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Bold of you to assume they can read

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

They don't GAF. As long as there is some glimmer of hope that they can be their worst selves, maybe even get to watch while donnie does things to harm those they consider less than human, they are good. Even if they are still living utterly miserable lives with no healthcare, no prospects, no education for their children, etc...

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I watched as much as I could stomach and Trump really looks like shit. He looked like he didn’t know where he was and was falling asleep with that maxi pad on his ear boo-boo. He has that stiff Parkinson’s look to him. And JD Vance stumbled through his speech and sounded like a robot. Biden has issues but it doesn’t compare to this dynamic duo.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Did they bring “the wrong signs,” just like Johnson brought “the wrong speech”? Or is this how the Republican Party lowers the temperature, even as it commits a type of stochastic terrorism by describing the most awful rapes and murders and telling America: Biden did this? Their version of “tone it down” is...”bloodbath”? Seriously? And yet when I walked around the inner bowels of the Fiserv Forum, RNC delegates swore that only Democrats are responsible for violent rhetoric.

“The level of violent rhetoric on the left has been escalating for years — they’re awful,” Bob Witsenhausen, the GOP county chair of Santa Fe, N.M., an alternate delegate wearing a red MAGA hat autographed by Laura Loomer, told me. He insisted that the “bloodbath” signs were OK because they address undocumented migrants — but he claimed Biden is “trying to label every MAGA Republican as a domestic terrorist.” He slammed Black Lives Matter but when I asked about the violence on Jan. 6, 2021, he replied with debunked tales about undercover FBI and “antifa” infiltrators. “Jan. 6 was a set up. Anybody who has their eyes open can see that.”

They have completely lost touch with reality. Just as their carnival barkers intended. And we’ll all pay the price for it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

They spent the whole time whining about Biden and culture war issues like this moron.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago

can my hometown go back to being famous for kia theft? this is a huge step down from that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Did anyone else find this really hard to read (literally not metaphorically)?

The whole thing reads like it was written by AI and is buzzword salad/hush tones. Journalism is fucking dead

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I got that impression just from the title; absolutely incomprehensible. You're telling me that the article is worse?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

It's a very short way from the raised fist salute to the sieg heil salute.

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