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[–] 80 points 2 years ago (10 children)

You want the actual answer? Because the Democratic Party has spent the last decade torpedoing non-establishment candidates. They killed off other candidates even running in this primary, and shut down several primaries entirely. Why would we waste our time?

And let’s be honest, let’s say that now the DNC appoints a new candidate, like they legally can do, it’s not going to be an AOC or someone even slightly to the left like Warren. It’s going to be another neoliberal like Buttigeig who will continue to Biden’s legacy of absolute mediocrity and screwing over the American people in the name of “freedom”.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    This is 100% correct.

    Small thing to add - we’re also in the midst of a devastating heat wave across most of the US at this moment. Taking to the streets isn’t exactly an accessible option right now, but anyone who has been remotely engaged in online discourse should be well aware of voters’ discontent with Biden and the status quo. They certainly won’t be discussing it on MSNBC however.

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    [–] 64 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I mean, they packed university campuses across the country and then the riot police went in. What kind of goldfish memory is this?

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    [–] 46 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The last time we filled the streets we wanted police reform and didn't get it.

    The time before that it was to protest a war that happened anyway.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Because that's not a thing and never has been? Find me any large scale protests in the history of the US where they were protesting a candidate prior to an election.

    There's not a single liberal or leftist (a few paid shill podcasters notwithstanding) in the whole country saying "Joe Biden's brain is so soupy that Donald Trump would make a better president." We're saying Democrat leadership suppressed the primary to anoint an incumbent who's going to lose. Democracy is on the line, and we're running out of time to put our best foot forward. It'd be one thing if we were getting honest and reasonable arguments in response, but instead we're getting gaslit (Only the elites want Biden to step aside?) and being told "get in line or you're helping Trump somehow. " Meanwhile, Republicans are preparing to sue to keep Biden on the ballot in the event of a switch, because they know who they want to run against.

    I hope I'm wrong and I hope he wins, since we're probably stuck with him on the ticket. Given that he's down 12 points from where he was in 2020 against Trump, where the swing states that gave Biden the election were only fractions of a percent in his favor, it's gonna take some kind of miracle. We don't have to be in this seemingly hopeless situation, but Biden's ego and stubbornness seem like they're gonna keep us here.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Honestly. The number of people just on this platform saying "nobody thinks biden should drop, you're wrong, you have no right to be upset with Biden's team, and anyone who says otherwise is a bot" is seriously making me wonder if that narrative itself is the one being pushed by bots to sow discord between us. Who honestly jumps directly to "bot or stupid, no other possible explanation" when they disagree with an opinion so clearly held by a substantial number of people with nuanced opinions.

    Anyone paying attention would see that Biden, having won on razor margins in 2020, on promises of being a 1-term president, could not afford to lose ANY ground in democratic turnout. Every feeler they put out is coming back showing we have lost that ground substantially and Biden is utterly unable to campaign to gain it back. Anyone can be not Trump, not everyone can run an energetic campaign on their own merits, and that is overwhelmingly what motivates people to turn out to vote.

    It's not a difficult connection to make and the assumption that bots would be the only ones to make an argument to replace Biden, after they ran a "primary" in which they hid Biden away from us and didn't let even anyone remotely viable run, is just such an uninformed and arrogant viewpoint to witness in such droves that I hardly believe it's real.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Because there aren't any other viable candidates.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago (18 children)

    I agree with you, and that's how you know it's just disinformation and dishonesty. Nobody ever has a serious name to replace Biden. You press them for the replacement candidate, and you'll get a ridiculous answer because they don't actually have a plan. They just want to knock Biden down.

    Harris is already on the ticket. If she's the reason to vote, good news! Biden can step aside after he beats Trump and hand Harris the big chair. She can then run in 4 years as an incumbent (assuming she does a good job.) If she's not the dream candidate, then why aren't we talking about replacing her on the ticket? You want Whitmer or Newsom or Buttigieg, then put them on as the VP and let them run behind Biden.

    You don't get away from Biden's baggage by having him step aaide. His record, his endorsements, his policies, those all come with the package. The only thing you shed is his age. If that's the only reason you're concerned about Biden, then it's not a serious concern.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    how is Biden the only person that can beat Trump? What left-leaning person would go "hmm, it's not Biden so I guess I'm voting Trump"?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    It's not that Biden is the only person who can beat Trump. Biden is the only person RUNNING who can beat Trump. There are plenty of people who could beat Trump, but until one of them says they want the job this entire thing is a nonstarter.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Theres a whole country of people, how hard is it to find one qualified candidate?!

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Because, as the sitting President, the only person who can make that decision is Biden. It literally does not matter what anyone else says or does.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    I want to retire. I am sick of this country being run by workaholics. I want it to be run by people planning on not working themselves into the fucking grave, and expecting the rest of us to do so as well.

    57 years is the oldest a candidate should be for a first-term presidency. 61 for a second term. If they still want to play politics, they can take a position in their local HOA.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I got work. Like 6 hours of meetings a day. With what energy would I use to 'go to the streets' to ask an old fuck who definitely can't hear me to please retire. I don't think he will hear me or care.

    I'll still vote for him I guess. Better Biden than the career criminal maniac.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    Because it’s hot outside.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Because in no case where they switched candidates in the process did they win an election.

    None. It's certain defeat.

    Now, if someone would tell these people trying to nullify the vote to kindly fuck off, that'd be great.

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)
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    [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Because most of the people elevating this narrative are right wing trolls and Russian trolls. Trump and Putin thrive on chaos and doubt. We are weaker as a country when we are fragmented and don't stand firmly against a common evil

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Wait a minute that seems like evidence the large majority of Democrats don't feel he 'must step aside!' No, that can't be it...maybe they're just stupid?

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Because it is largely disinformation and people are being paid to write articles on it or claim such behind closed doors but not publicly

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Because we don't want to get shot again by the cops the Democrats pretended to defend before saying they were needed to enforce order.

    Plus working to death to afford to run air conditioning to not die in the apocalyptic climate change heat waves.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Nah. It's all good 👍. Just find a young candidate next time. Like 30 years old please. If it's another 70 year old white guy, I'm gonna be royally pissed for sure.

    Right now I'm just annoyed so I'm not leaving my job just to get shot by the police as they are trained to do.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Afraid it might backfire

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    It's a right wing battle cry to inspire division

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Because this isn't about a massive movement. This is about the roughly 100,000 people in battleground states who will decide the election.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Because it's 2024 and people on the fuckin streets are staring at their phones reading all the rage flooding their feeds.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    There isn't any alternative stepping up. Who do we rally behind as the replacement? No one?

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