Ask Lemmy

As a huge Anime fan, with some catching up to do, I've blocked every anime adjacent community, because NSFW filtering isn't applied as strictly as I would prefer, on the Anime communities here.

I enjoy a good sexually charged image as much as the next person, perhaps more.

But I scroll Lemmy in front of my impressionable daughter sometimes.

I would like to catch up on Anime recommendations, here.

But, to me, it's just not worth the risk of suddenly needing to explain to my daughter why Faye Valentine's parents didn't love her enough to buy her full sets of clothing.

Op, if my HR dept saw me scroll by that pic... It would be an annoying conversation. Like while I'll agree, there's no nudity... I would get in trouble. I've left some chatroom due to this... People just don't understand that I don't care but the folks cutting my checks will make a thing of it

As much as I like looking at pictures of anime girls I think they should be marked as NSFW if they are barely clothed.

I think if you wouldn't use it as your wallpaper at work because it is inappropriate for work, that's NSFW. So yeah at my job that would be NSFW.

I feel like the Internet needs more tags:

• Explicit (rude language, nudity, etc)
• Porn (nsfw legacy tag)
• Violence
• Not safe for life

Something like that.

I am of the opinion that there should be more granularity to NSFW than a simple binary.

I'm a fan of how e621 does things:

rating:s (safe)

rating:q (questionable)

rating:e (explicit,)

But I would add another:

rating:t (traumatic, known elsewhere as Not Safe For Life)

Call it "purity" and allow users to filter posts to allow or block any arbitrary combination of purity levels (wallhalla, formerly wallbase, does this if you want to see how it could work).

Of course it should. NSFW doesn’t mean too hot to handle. It means, I don’t want coworkers or customers seeing this on my screen, as a matter of professionalism.

I just want posts or communities to have category tags for me to block by tag. So I can block all anime and every non-English community.

I have nothing against them. They’re just not of interest to me and I don’t want them on my feed. Blocking a community is mostly useless because there are so many of them it’s like playing whack a mole.

Look, this whole thing is absurd like a Monty Python sketch, but much less funny.

Is this picture not safe for work..?

How about this one..?

And what about this photograph of an actual naked beaver I posted the other day..?

For me, all three could get me in trouble at work (because they clearly have nothing to do with the work I should be doing), and none of them would get me in trouble at the bus (though there's plenty of other pictures in Lemmy I wouldn't want to be caught watching in the bus to avoid embarrassing myself or others), but that's me, and that's why I don't use lemmy at work and if I use it on the bus I use a different account and only on communities I'm subscribed to.

But deciding whether to watch these pictures or risk watching others like them at work or the bus is my responsibility, not lemmy's, or the community moderators', or their posters'.

If I'm worried about “not suitable for work” I should be old enough to work, which means I should have a minimum of self control and be responsible for my own actions.

If I'm caught at work or on the bus with an “unsuitable” image on my phone because I was browsing some site that might contain images of that kind I'm not going to blame that site, or whoever posted that image, and I'm not going to demand of them to adapt to my particular circumstances and mark, censor, or remove any content I might find unsuitable.

That's my job, not theirs. They're not my fucking nanny, and I shouldn't need one.

Attempting to shift the blame for my own actions to the people providing me with this content (and for free, no less!) would be childish, petty, and disingenuous, to say the least.

Which half?

NSFW is not safe for work, so if it wouldn't fly at work.... it should be marked.

Yes

I 100% would not want an image like that to pop up in front of a coworker. I'm on board with you, OP.

Yes.

The tag is Not Safe For Work. I'd say that if you were to look at this in most work places you'd probably be speaking to HR within the hour...

Yes. 100%

I wish there was strictly an amine tag so I could filter all that shit out like you can with nsfw. Blocked countless weirdass communities that randomly popup.

Where the NSFW line is drawn varies depending on the moderator and community. If there are communities that are either not moderated actively enough or draw that line too far to one side for your taste, then don't subscribe or block those communities. Those tools exist there for a reason.

I would not consider the post you have linked to as NSFW. I also think that the NSFW tag has evolved over time, so perhaps my definition of NSFW just doesn't line up with what today's standard should be. There are plenty of anime characters in very popular shows that have a character design similar to that. There are big billboards of them some places to promote the show. Just because it might be NSFW in your work environment/region, does not mean it is everywhere.

That would be perfectly acceptable where I live and work. No nudity, no tits, no genitals, move along...

On the other hand, anime in general is relegated to teens more than not here, so any anime would raise eyebrows if seems browsing from my phone by others given I am definitely not a teen by large.

YMMV, but different cultures different sensibility.

Should Lemmy be a MCM or a MCD? I think this should be the question.

I just block the people that post them, and the sub it's from. I almost never see that shit now.

Yes, they should be. For the same exact reason anything that is taboo but socially acceptable but definitely unprofessional should be. Real boobs, cartoon boobs, it doesn't bother me at all but it makes me very much less likely to browse lemmy in a public setting. Setting morals completely aside, if you want this platform to thrive, you'll have to be compassionate to the consumers of it, the user base. The community can definitely make this thing not usable if they want to. It's about being practical.

NSFW has become code for porn, effectively. My friend and I use NSFO for 'not porn, maybe not even nudity, but not necessarily appropriate for the office'. Maybe that's what we need. A second filter.

Yes, you could get in trouble at work for viewing it just like you said a picture of a real woman would be

Yes. Problem is that NSFW has lost its original meaning to a lot of people. NSFW was originally to hide things that might be controversial to be visible on your screen in a workplace, so it should be fairly conservative. Beachwear would 100% not be safe to look at in a work environment.

But now a lot of places are using it to determine what is safe to look at not in front of your boss, but in front of your kids or in public. That is a much different thing. NSFW flags should not be used to restrict kids from seeing it, just your boss. There needs to be a separate flag for hiding things from kids. And because social norms are different in different societies, there should be even more granularity in the flags. Nudity is just one thing that is NSFW.

NSFW should be reserved for blocking things that I don't want to suddenly appear on my screen when I'm browsing the Internet on my break at work when I'm allowed to browse the Internet, but it wouldn't be good for a naked picture to show up on my screen suddenly.

Why do these anime girls always look like they're in their teens? Extremely creepy.

This whole problem would be solved by adding more tags as per this proposal: https://github.com/LemmyNet/rfcs/pull/4 and enabling more filtering.

but @[email protected] and @[email protected] didn't look at it for months and I don't know what is their stance on it. The dev that wanted to implement it doesn't want to spend energy to push forward for a green light.

When browsing in All or similar, there's a non-zero chance of coming across things that can be offensive, explicit, or disgusting. You shouldn't encounter anything pornographic or where people die or get horribly injured, but that is my only expectation.

I browse in thumbnail view for that reason. It's enough to see if I want to see a full image, if it's not something I want to see, I didn't get hit full blast by it, and if it's something I don't want people around to see at that moment, it's much harder for them to see it and faster to scroll past.

When you select a sort that pulls from every community, it's you asking to see everything. Death, injury, and private parts are about the only things the bulk of society can agree are at least somewhat offensive, so those are the only things you should expect to see blocked by a NSFW filter. Lewd, gross, and offensive are still free to pass, for better or worse. That's the Internet culture has existed for most of its existence and feels pretty universal in my experience.

If you're browsing Lemmy, on your phone, in work then really you should be curating your feed a bit better.

If the NSFW limit was put on "image of a woman wearing shorts and sports bra", would you run to shut down the break room TV when they showed such obscene NSFW things like the Olympic games with their skimpy track and field and beach volleyball outfits? All of those communities would obviously need to be marked NSFW on Lemmy too.

And while NSFW indeed does come from the words "Not safe for work", it isn't "blur everything that wouldn't be appropriate for my coworkers or boss to see me browse during work time".
Getting caught watching episodes of My Little Pony would be pretty inappropriate and embarrassing during working hours as well.