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[–] [email protected] 95 points 4 months ago (1 children)

DRM = Direct Rendering Manager, in case anyone else was thinking Digital Rights Management...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Rendering_Manager

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yea we need to say it all the time.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago

Digital Radio Mondiale enthusiasts: First time?

[–] [email protected] 66 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

On the one hand, that is cool as fuck.

Unfortunately though, I've been fortunate in that I've been using Linux for 16 years and never experienced a panic screen, so I probably won't get to see Tux :/

[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Delete /etc to make your system faster. /s Also, obligatory warning to NEVER DO THIS for anyone new to Linux.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Would this even cause a kernel panic? I think this just causes a userland "panic"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Idk, you're probably right.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah 'etc' of course stands for 'et cetera' which implies that's all just a bunch of extra shit, right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

etcetera lol

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

For destructive commands I much prefer find / -type f -exec mv {} /blackhole \;

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Idea: Create alias for /dev/null as /blackhole

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

That won't cause a kernel panic

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

maybe on some public displays,
but those surely wont update to such a new kernel for a long time

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago (4 children)

This is making me realize that I have never encountered this equivalent of a blue screen of death on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (4 children)

It's very new. Previously the system would just drop to a console with a message saying "Kernel panic: not syncing: [reason]" and a whole bunch of debug info.

But still, on a well-maintained system, that pretty much never happens. Mainly because Linux is significantly more resilient to faults in device drivers than Windows.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Begs the question what's the point in all of this? In 20 or so years of using Linux (usually maintaining multiple systems at once) I've had a kernel panic maybe about 4 times for different reasons, and on those occasions the console debug info was fine. I don't really understand the excitement around making error messages look more like Windows. It can't be around being more newbie friendly since if you're having kernel panics you probably need to be an expert or have expert advice anyway.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

funy pengin

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I guess it will make developers who develop the kernel and its components go "hehe fat penguin anyway let's continue debugging this mess"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

even on a less well-maintained system it's probably not going to be the kernel having a freakout, the kernel is going to be just fine while something else shits itself (probably graphics drivers on a desktop tbh, my vega 10 loves to vomit onto the screen and pass out)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Linux is monolithic so it breaks when a kernel module fails. It can sometimes recover but sometimes the system is in such a bad state a panic is triggered to protect against further issues.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

DJ Khaled: Suffering from success

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

ive seen it a few times on those screens that buses here have, that shows the next stations on the route.

but never on any of my computers

(im refering to those old 'kernel panic' messages)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah I have constant crashes back to login screen but never have I seen a kernel panic except before a system boots. Mm a few exceptions

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Last time I saw kernel panic I was on 2.6. I don't think I'll ever see him. :(

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

You can install beta NVIDIA drivers with Optimus on A laptop and you'll be able to see the fat Tux!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

It's also been decades since I saw one. I think only people that tinker with kernel code get to see it nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hes not fat hes a rotund penguin on his way to mate!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

It's just the regular penguin. Clickbait!!!1!!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Hell yeah now Linux and I both will panic in style

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Not fat tux, huggable tux.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I have seen a kernel panic once, when I was failing to set up a raspberry pi (the SD card installer was corrupted).

So while this is super cool, I honestly don't think I'll ever see it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The DRM Panic handler in Linux 6.10 that is used for presenting a visual error message in case of kernel panics and similar when CONFIG_VT is disabled continues seeing new features.

With Linux 6.11, the DRM Panic display can now handle monochrome logos.

With the code in Linux 6.10 when DRM Panic is triggered, an ASCII art version of Linux's mascot, Tux the penguin, is rendered as part of the display.

If ASCII art on error messages doesn't satisfy your tastes in 2024+, the DRM Panic code will be able to support a monochrome graphical logo that leverages the Linux kernel's boot-up logo support.

This monochrome logo support in the DRM Panic handler was sent out as part of this week's drm-misc-next pull request ahead of the Linux 6.11 merge window in July.

This week's drm-misc-next material also includes TTM memory management improvements, various fixes to the smaller Direct Rendering Manager drivers, and also the previously talked about monochrome TV support for the Raspberry Pi.


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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Let's make a patch that does animations too for good measure 🤣