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Here we go, the first Presidential debate between Biden and Trump begins at 9 PM Eastern/6 PM Pacific.

How to watch it:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/politics/how-to-watch-cnn-debate/index.html

"The CNN Presidential Debate will air live on CNN, CNN International and CNN en Español, and via streaming on Max for subscribers and without a cable login on CNN.com. CNN will make the debate available to simulcast on additional broadcast and cable news networks.

You can also follow CNN’s live debate coverage on CNN.com, which will include analysis and fact checking."

"According to parameters set by CNN in May, all participating debaters had to appear on a sufficient number of state ballots to reach the 270 electoral vote threshold to win the presidency and receive at least 15% in four separate national polls of registered or likely voters that meet CNN’s standards for reporting.

Polls that meet those standards are those sponsored by CNN, ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, Marquette University Law School, Monmouth University, NBC News, The New York Times/Siena College, NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist College, Quinnipiac University, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post."

Edit And that's it! Thanks for watching everyone!

tl;dw:

Consensus is Trump didn't so much as beat Biden as Biden beat himself.

The real loser is CNN who failed to fact check anyone, and there were obvious fact checks on both sides.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Watching the PBS stream and they show the attack ad against Biden;

"Are you financially better off since he became president."

Is your family safer?

Is our country more secure?"

Yes to all three in my family's case.

Thanks to Democratic legislation I dodged nearly $35,000 in emergency medical expenses and instead had to only pay about $750. Thanks to the IRA legislation, I was able to invest in both solar and an energy-efficient A/C for my house for which I got 30% off through deductions that I otherwise wouldn't have obtained.

I definitely feel safer in this border state, my elections more secure, and I appreciate a leader who stands up to global tyrants.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Lol...it took 3 minutes after the debate for ABC to essentially call for Biden to step down. Finally someone said the quiet thing out loud.

That might have been the worst debate performance in the history of US presidential debates. When Kennedy won might be the only other death swing in polls like we will see tomorrow.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

Biden is hammering home a lot of important shit. I'd say he's warmed up by now.

Though him lying that Hamas is the only group that wants war between Israel and Palestine was a disgusting, vile lie, when it's been constantly reported that Netenyahu and those around him are rabidly in favor of continuing it

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I can't believe his debate camp didn't work on Biden not doing that confused, slack-jawed stare all the time.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hate everything about it. I wish it wasn’t happening. That demented orange convicted felon rapist should be in prison, not promoted from every media orifice.

I disagree Joe is going to get anything from this. But, the die is cast so - baby needs a new pair of shoes!

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

These gentlemen are debating each other with the confidence and energy of a 6th grade debate club. This is simultaneously the most hilarious and terrifying thing I've ever seen.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"We had H2O", what is he even talking about? It's scary to realise his cult just accepts anything he says.

And then a confused attack on Trump on climate change that was so softball and not to the point... oof... Biden, why?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Jesus Joe!

JUST TELL HIM HE HAD THE BOARDER BILL KILLED!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why do we only get 90 minutes. Why do they only get 1 minute to answer. Sit the down and have an actual discussion damnit. You're trying to run a country not win a talent show. I want hear how their brains work, not their mouths.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

While Biden talks more sense than Trump (not a high bar), he looks like he’s gonna drop dead any minute, and his hoarse voice isn’t helping.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

Of course, Trump completely deflects on the climate change question.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If you don’t try to understand what they are actually saying, Trump sounds like the better candidate just by confidence and speaking clearly. SMH

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trump can’t lie fast enough.

This is awful without fact checking.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

My god let the poor old man rest, this is senior abuse and torture at this point

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (6 children)

I keep tuning in and out. I tune out when Trump speaks because everything he says is just such an affront to objective reality. But then I also tune out when Biden speaks because... He just comes off as so old it's making me cringe. Like, this is the best we could come up with to combat a literal fucking fascist.

Then I wonder, what part of this am I listening to? The questions?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Welp I'm going to find a bridge and throw myself off of it.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hope the fact that the current SCOTUS just legalized bribery comes up.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Fuck everything about this. I can’t bear to watch.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-misinformation-election-debate-trump-biden-577507522762aa10f6ee5be3a0ced2bb

This is promising. Trump just lies (surprised face), Biden just exaggerates or makes small speaking errors. (Among all the brain farts and studdering)

I watched some of it. Super embarrassing for Biden. Added all the fodder Fox needs to make edits and clips until the end of time.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Serious question, for anyone masochistic enough to still be watching: Has Biden's performance improved enough to negate the moment that will be on every GOP attack ad for the next 5 months, or does he still look like he needs to be walked back into his room and told that no, it's not 1975 any more........

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Enough? No.

Edit: It's really not good. He's pulled it together a bit, but there's no way around it. At least Trump unraveled to his usual form. It would've been worse if he kept his composure he had in the first 15 minutes. My heart sank when Joe looked like he was watching cartoons dance around the room and TRUMP was the cool and reserved candidate.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Jesus, Trump bringing up the idea of post-birth abortion. I hope people see through it.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

I'm tapping out for my sanity

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