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[–] [email protected] 125 points 4 months ago (4 children)

This is ludicrous. The Republicans have nothing to worry about. It does not matter to their voters at all. He could start shouting "kill, kill, kill" until he has a seizure and craps himself on stage, voters: "just like Jesus"

/s

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I think the commenter missed the "rs" after "/s"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I just thought at the last second it was disrespectful to people with seizures. The s probably doesn't help with that anyway though

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yup, Trump can't do or say anything wrong. He could literally eat a baby on national TV and his base would search for scripture to justify it.

Please vote for Biden. We're going to see some serious fucked up shit if Trump wins. Project 25 will make it happen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Trump is the larger of the two, why shouldn't he simply eat the baby?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Perhaps they're saving that for election day

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Wait til you find out Project 25 is just another Mandate for Leadership put out by the Heritage foundation since 1981. This fascist train has been rolling for a long time, and it’s going too fast for us to get off it now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

With trump, the trap isn't his loyal base turning on him, it's having a motivated population against him. He benefits from apathy. If he falls into traps that cause bubble voters to show up, that's the trouble for him.

[–] [email protected] 114 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Veteran Republican strategist Karl Rove wrote in The Wall Street Journal: “Mr Trump can’t come off as unhinged or enraged. The words ‘rigged election’ shouldn’t pass his lips. He has to keep his cool and can’t make it all about himself.”

I can’t believe they defrosted Karl Rove.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I think Rove is wrong. He's like Carville -- he used to be a legendary master because he absorbed the shape of the landscape, but then he solidified, and he thinks it's still 2004 and always will be, and that nothing's changed since then.

Trump's base wants to start a civil war with the Democrats. If Trump wants to win, he needs to sound like an angry crazy person. It's when he tries to be normal that it all goes sour for him. That has no spice to inspire the electorate, and it doesn't suit him and he doesn't do a good job with it anyway, and all the people who were looking for a sensible leader have long since left the GOP's tent.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

trump doesn't need to court the cult. he needs the independents in order to win.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I remember when Biden won and like 3-6mo later the TPs on Fox and people on the street were all ''Biden is so boring, wasn't that nice when everyday Trump made a new gaff or horrifying threat against our existence? That was so fun!''

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I didn’t think that fox used TP, just the tongues of interns to clean themselves.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

He shouldn't make it about himself? Has Karl Rove even met Trump? He's the posterchild for untreated, raging narcissism.

It's like saying Biden should come in skating and say "hello, fellow kids!"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Rove is one of the old strategists of the GOP. He knows how to play the game the traditional way, and he was pretty successful at it for a long time. He's evil, but not dumb.

What he apparently still doesn't get is that Trump took that playbook, noticed it has words in it, shat on it, and threw it back at Rove.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago

Veteran Republican strategist Karl Rove wrote in The Wall Street Journal: “Mr Trump can’t come off as unhinged or enraged. The words ‘rigged election’ shouldn’t pass his lips. He has to keep his cool and can’t make it all about himself.”

In other words, Trump has to be literally anyone other than himself. He might be able to refrain from lying about "rigged elections" but there's no chance in hell he doesn't come across as unhinged or making everything about himself.

Which won't matter at all to Republicans, cause they're a god damned cult.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Defrosted ham is never good

[–] [email protected] 66 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There will be lots of traps for Trump. Like getting asked questions, and having a microphone. Gotta watch out for those.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Meat hanging over an obvious net trap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

~~Meat~~ Hamberders hanging over an obvious net trap.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Like if Biden says, "never have I ever committed a campaign finance felony," and then Donald has to two-hand wobble his little drink up to the sphincter on his face to take a swig.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


With just days to go before Donald Trump and Joe Biden face off in the first presidential debate, Republicans are concerned about the possibility of the former president walking into a trap in front of a national audience.

Fearing a repeat of the chaos of the first 2020 debate in which Trump kept interrupting and speaking over both Biden and moderator Chris Wallace, senior party figures are urging him to stay calm and follow the rules.

The issue is clearly on the former president’s mind too, as he asked supporters at a rally in Philadelphia on Saturday (June 22) whether he should be “tough and nasty” or “nice and calm” and let Biden speak.

Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, once a fierce Trump critic and now one of his staunchest allies said: “The main focus is going to be: is Biden capable?”

One potential Trump running mate, Senator JD Vance of Ohio, recognizes the importance of the debate but is confident that the former president can stick to a theme that appears to resonate with many voters.

The debate will be hosted by CNN’s Jake Tapper and Dana Bash in Atlanta on Thursday at 9pm est — there will be no studio audience and moderators will “use all tools at their disposal to enforce timing and ensure a civilized discussion”.


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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Is the current president and former vice president capable of being president.... tough question.

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