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If only we had a way to slow down or stop the spread of disease. three-heads-thinking

Someday, far onto the future, scientists will figure it out!

Around the world, a post-Covid reality is beginning to sink in: Everyone, everywhere, really is sick a lot more often.

At least 13 communicable diseases, from the common cold to measles and tuberculosis, are surging past their pre-pandemic levels in many regions, and often by significant margins, according to analysis by Bloomberg News and London-based disease forecasting firm Airfinity Ltd.

The resulting research, based on data collected from more than 60 organizations and public health agencies, shows that 44 countries and territories have reported at least one infectious disease resurgence that’s at least ten times worse than the pre-pandemic baseline.

The post-Covid global surge of illnesses — viral and bacterial, common and historically rare — is a mystery that researchers and scientists are still trying to definitively explain. The way Covid lockdowns shifted baseline immunities is a piece of the puzzle, as is the pandemic’s hit to overall vaccine administration and compliance. Climate change, rising social inequality and wrung-out health-care services are contributing in ways that are hard to measure.

We can explain it, covid takes a toll on our immune system, and we are constantly exposed to it and can catch it multiple times a year. No one in public office wants to acknowledge it because that would mean putting money and effort into infection control.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The "lockdowns" that never even happened in 99% of the US

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

you mean 100% of the US

there was no lockdown, people were just off from work for a few weeks in April 2020 I think? I remember driving to stores and stuff, so we were obviously not under lockdown

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The kite store in the park of a Midwestern city I used to live in even stayed open as an "essential business" because they also run a snack stand and apparently offered takeout. The owner still had a sandwich board out front complaining about the "china virus".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

There was definitely like, an 80% reduction in cars on the road in the northeast. But it only lasted a couple weeks and went back to normal very quickly

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

I had to work the whole time in a busy store. Didn't get any time off. It was nice eating lunch outside and not having to listen to traffic for a few weeks, though.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"It's time to ban masks though because Hamas" - USA states.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure bird flu will be fine tho

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (3 children)

H5N1 is a type of an influenza A virus. A recent study found Influenza A infections make you more susceptible to Covid.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It would be nice to know if the flu shots they give out have any crossover protection. Oh well, I guess we'll find out.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

I'd prefer we didn't. agony-deep

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's going to be backwards though, bird flu isn't good at infecting humans, the immune deficiency caused by covid will make it easier for bird flu to infect humans which will greatly increase the odds of mutating a strain that infects humans more readily

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

For now! But yeah, totally. Right there with ya. See my previous doom postings about mass immune dysregulation. doomjak

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

It could just go back and forth because they're disease friends now.

COVID making people more susceptible to infection so they get H5N1. H5N1 making people more likely to get COVID. If H5N1 mutates fast enough they can get a cycle going.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but you're forgetting there is a 52% chance that H5N1 makes you permanently immune to covid.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

data-laughing that should not have made laugh as hard as it did.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Also it just feels like the anti-vax movement has gained way more momentum "post"-Covid. Like hasn't the rise in measles cases been mainly in school children who haven't been vaccinated due to anti-vax parents?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)

In order to normalize ending lockdowns and masking and whatnot, corporate media platformed so many anti-science folk to the point that I don't think we're ever gonna get that genie back in the bottle.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

It's not just that but the anti-vax movement is mainstream conservatism and fascism now as it was pushed hard in those media circles because COVID was made into bs culture "war" issue. It's fucking idiotic the society we live in.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago

The anti vax campaigns people and governments have been running are doing damage, for sure.

In the UK at least, vaccination rates are at a 10 year low. With something as infectious as measles that might be enough to see the huge outbreaks we are seeing.

Then you have Dtap vaccines, which are down a couple percent in the UK over the last few years, but is that enough to explain things like this:

And we are also seeing a rise in rare cancers and other diseases that are usually only associated with immune disorders like AIDS.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

Millennial I know who have had kids since 2020 are forgoing all vaccines. That hardline ideology developed for them during Covid. In 5 years measles outbreaks will be widespread

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago

The post-Covid global surge of illnesses — viral and bacterial, common and historically rare — is a mystery that researchers and scientists are still trying to definitively explain.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)

OH COOL, TUBERCULOSIS, CAN'T WAIT FOR THE FUCKING WHITE DEATH

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

I attended a lecture recently given by a PhD student who is studying tuberculosis. Learning about the cellular mechanism that is used to infect the cells is terrifying. I won't be able to do the explanation justice, but it basically it uses your immune system against you to create more toxins. One of the most terrifying things I've learned about in awhile.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

I get a notice from my transit agency about once a month that I have been exposed to tuberculosis...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago

Saying anything about COVID lockdowns in 2024 should get you a one-way ticket to barbara-pit. IMMUNITY DEBT ISN'T A THING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH honk-enraged

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

They are truly still trying to pin this "mystery" to the few week long pseudo-lockdowns...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

The lockdowns that not even the US could commit to because "muh freedumz"?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is the entirely predictable result of a system which inspires no confidence facing a crisis that destroys any lingering confidence. Imagine confidence in the system like a bag of beans and every new good thing the system does you put a new bean in the bag. Every bad thing that happens you take out a bean. Well, thanks to austerity and neoliberalism no new beans have been added to the bag. We (our oligarchs and their consent manufacturers) have decided that we have enough beans. We have achieved The End of Beanstory. But real life doesn't work like that. Crises continue to appear. Beans are getting removed. Eventually we will be left with a terminal realization crisis: is it still a bag of beans if it has no beans inside it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Finally gave it a full read, this article relies on someone from the notoriously inaccurate IHME group that has been providing the consent manufacturing machine much of their "expertise" ever since they began the sociological ending of the pandemic.

Are Bill Gates’s Billions Distorting Public Health Data?