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[–] 176 points 2 years ago (17 children)

Me watching WWDC: “Android already does that.”

Me watching Google I/O “iOS already does that.”

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Windows phone 10 had most of these things in 2015

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  • [+] 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    I would argue that it’s the nature of having a mature and complex product. Adding new stuff is hard because you have a lot of legacy code / UX that you have to accommodate for. You need to move slower because it’s easier to break stuff in a more mature product.

    I’d also argue that Apple and Google’s research teams are generally hearing the similar stuff out of their end users, so it’s to be expected that both companies are going to prioritize similar functionality.

    That was my experience when I’ve worked on massive products. The complexity of the product impacts development speed, and shared understandings of user desires results in similar feature sets between competitors.

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    [–] 101 points 2 years ago (28 children)

    Yes. Android already does all these things. But I think the things I’m excited most about are not on this list at all.

    1. A private local LLM. With the on-device context of my notes, messages, calendar, etc, I’m rather excited to have a more personal LLM than ChatGPT.

    2. Personal messaging via satellite. I love that I can stay in touch with people outside of a cell network.

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    [–] 65 points 2 years ago (31 children)

    Android can do satellite messaging? Android phone makers are shipping on device LLMs?

    I'm not an Apple fanboy nor do I use an iPhone currently but this headline is ridiculous.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    Android phone makers are shipping on device LLMs?

    Do people actually want these?

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    [–] 45 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    As much as I hate apple and google, I want a future where all these can be done locally without massive servers and sending all data to cloud . Apple clearly have a edge over google in that regards.

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    [–] 31 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    My last brand new Pixel phone had debug strings in the user interface and the UI was not responsive. It’s the daily annoyances and details that made me get an iPhone. Comparisons have been stupid since the beginning of smartphones.

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    [–] 31 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    This has been the case for at least 11 years.

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I didn’t realise android did free SMS over satellite when there is no cellular connection

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Looks like it's been available on some android devices for at least a month. I don't know about free though, I think it depends on your carrier. I know T-Mobile has been talking about supporting it using Starlink satellites.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/1ct1no1/satellite_messaging_option_appeared_on_my_pixel_7/ https://www.t-mobile.com/news/un-carrier/first-spacex-satellites-launch-for-breakthrough-direct-to-cell-service-with-t-mobile

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    [–] 28 points 2 years ago (32 children)

    Android is 5 years ahead of iPhone 60% of the time

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago

    That’s great! Competition in this space is working to improve both.

    Instead of this stupid fanboy shit of Android vs iOS, we should celebrate an actual success in development.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Good for Android, now if they’d only implement all of the Apple-only features that create the lock-in appeal then maybe they’ll get somewhere. When my Pixel Buds flow seamlessly from device to device to the third and fourth device then maybe we’ll talk

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (19 children)

    To be honest as an Android user, if Apple makes their phone less locked down and give more affordable choices for phones I may try an iPhone, as I am a bit fed up with Android, and there are no other real alternatives.

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    I mean Android, and Samsung in particular, borrow from Apple all the time as well. Hell Samsung frequently bad mouths Apples for the anti-consumer choices one year then follows suit and does the same thing in a year or 2 themselves.

    These kinds of takes are not the flex some seem to think they are in my opinion.

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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Lifelong iOS hater who moved to iOS 2 years ago here. They're different strokes for different folks.

    If you're like I used to be, get an Android! Flash a custom ROM on it! All the freedom is amazing.

    Now I have an iPhone. It may even lack some features Android has. It gets them slower. But the experience is ridiculously polished and consistent. This is a device I can't have fail on me.

    I still use Linux on my gaming PC and one of my work laptops. I love it. I love fiddling with things. I just want my phone to be an appliance like my fridge now. I buy it and forget it for the next few years.

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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    i still like my android but i do wish they would get back to prioritising widgets again, like apple has done - and get developers to do it as well.

    i also like apple watch over my samsung watch. i think the apple watch is top in it's class - that combined with apple fitness+.

    if apple could set defaults, use actual browsers (like android), and have an open in menu like android, i'd switch. i don't think i could ever get used to apple's notifications though. android is still superior there.

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I know this is an old feature, but do we have the NFC money transfer thingy?

    I mean the one where you touch other phone with your phone and transfer money.

    If we do I am unaware of it, I use AOSP.

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    [+] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (13 children)
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