▲ 286 ▼ Everything Apple iOS 18 Will Do, Android Already Does (gizmodo.com) submitted 2 years ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 232 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] doodle967@lemdro.id 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (13 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Imprudent3449@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (6 children) Satellite messaging is already available in Android 15 beta Perhaps in software, but I don't think there is a current phone that has the hardware to take advantage. For now, this is essentially an Apple only feature. It's a pretty good bet we are going to see some flagships released with it in the next year though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] signalsayge@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I know that Pixel 7's and above support it. There are Reddit posts showing they have the feature already. Satellite messaging is just using standard 4G/LTE from Starlink. I wouldn't be surprised if this is only an OS update away for most newer phones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Imprudent3449@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago That's pretty cool, I assumed they needed additional hardware. Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Correct. It needs hardware and will only be on flagships, if the OEM includes it.. Another nice feature on the latest iPhone is the UWB chip egg even the older models have but now you can find another iPhone 15 user in a crowd if they share their location. The UWB chip will guide you right to them I've wanted something like this for at least a decade for when my wife and I get separated in the Mall so that instead of calling her to see where she is (and she often doesn't hear it ringing) I'd be able to just use the phone to lead me to her... Pretty useful in real life. And it also works for your misplaced tracker tile, air pods, iPad etc permalink fedilink source parent [+] doodle967@lemdro.id 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Imprudent3449@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And? How many android devices can you name that actually support satellite messaging today? When the feature DOES come on the android side, I imagine it is going to probably be flagship devices as well. Seems to be a silly thing to call Apple out for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Its been on every Pixel since the 7 I believe, I realize that's only a couple iterations but its out there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Thistlewick@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 years ago (4 children) But is Android doing the on device LLM already? Because it sounds like they aren’t.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) https://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-get-gemini-nano-on-pixel-8-8a-3450466/ Pixel 8 pro already does. I'm not sure, but I think Samsung has something too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I think Pixel 8 and 8a do too, or at least are capable, since they're the same chip. I'd check, but I put GrapheneOS on my phone so I don't have all of the Google stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Imprudent3449@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I doubt it. The Pixels may be doing some but with Google I'm sure it's not much as they always prefer server side computing. iPhone will definitely aim to do most of it on device and use the server as little as possible. Which imo is the way to go. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Piece_Maker@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago Android 15 beta... so it'll be available on phones, out of the box, without anyone having to build/install a custom, on phones actual normal humans buy in about 2030 then. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Imprudent3449@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (6 children) Satellite messaging is already available in Android 15 beta Perhaps in software, but I don't think there is a current phone that has the hardware to take advantage. For now, this is essentially an Apple only feature. It's a pretty good bet we are going to see some flagships released with it in the next year though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] signalsayge@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I know that Pixel 7's and above support it. There are Reddit posts showing they have the feature already. Satellite messaging is just using standard 4G/LTE from Starlink. I wouldn't be surprised if this is only an OS update away for most newer phones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Imprudent3449@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago That's pretty cool, I assumed they needed additional hardware. Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Correct. It needs hardware and will only be on flagships, if the OEM includes it.. Another nice feature on the latest iPhone is the UWB chip egg even the older models have but now you can find another iPhone 15 user in a crowd if they share their location. The UWB chip will guide you right to them I've wanted something like this for at least a decade for when my wife and I get separated in the Mall so that instead of calling her to see where she is (and she often doesn't hear it ringing) I'd be able to just use the phone to lead me to her... Pretty useful in real life. And it also works for your misplaced tracker tile, air pods, iPad etc permalink fedilink source parent [+] doodle967@lemdro.id 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Imprudent3449@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And? How many android devices can you name that actually support satellite messaging today? When the feature DOES come on the android side, I imagine it is going to probably be flagship devices as well. Seems to be a silly thing to call Apple out for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Its been on every Pixel since the 7 I believe, I realize that's only a couple iterations but its out there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] signalsayge@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I know that Pixel 7's and above support it. There are Reddit posts showing they have the feature already. Satellite messaging is just using standard 4G/LTE from Starlink. I wouldn't be surprised if this is only an OS update away for most newer phones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Imprudent3449@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago That's pretty cool, I assumed they needed additional hardware. Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Imprudent3449@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago That's pretty cool, I assumed they needed additional hardware. Thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Correct. It needs hardware and will only be on flagships, if the OEM includes it.. Another nice feature on the latest iPhone is the UWB chip egg even the older models have but now you can find another iPhone 15 user in a crowd if they share their location. The UWB chip will guide you right to them I've wanted something like this for at least a decade for when my wife and I get separated in the Mall so that instead of calling her to see where she is (and she often doesn't hear it ringing) I'd be able to just use the phone to lead me to her... Pretty useful in real life. And it also works for your misplaced tracker tile, air pods, iPad etc permalink fedilink source parent
[+] doodle967@lemdro.id 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Imprudent3449@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And? How many android devices can you name that actually support satellite messaging today? When the feature DOES come on the android side, I imagine it is going to probably be flagship devices as well. Seems to be a silly thing to call Apple out for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Its been on every Pixel since the 7 I believe, I realize that's only a couple iterations but its out there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Imprudent3449@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And? How many android devices can you name that actually support satellite messaging today? When the feature DOES come on the android side, I imagine it is going to probably be flagship devices as well. Seems to be a silly thing to call Apple out for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Its been on every Pixel since the 7 I believe, I realize that's only a couple iterations but its out there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Its been on every Pixel since the 7 I believe, I realize that's only a couple iterations but its out there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thistlewick@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 years ago (4 children) But is Android doing the on device LLM already? Because it sounds like they aren’t.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) https://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-get-gemini-nano-on-pixel-8-8a-3450466/ Pixel 8 pro already does. I'm not sure, but I think Samsung has something too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I think Pixel 8 and 8a do too, or at least are capable, since they're the same chip. I'd check, but I put GrapheneOS on my phone so I don't have all of the Google stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Imprudent3449@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I doubt it. The Pixels may be doing some but with Google I'm sure it's not much as they always prefer server side computing. iPhone will definitely aim to do most of it on device and use the server as little as possible. Which imo is the way to go. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) https://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-get-gemini-nano-on-pixel-8-8a-3450466/ Pixel 8 pro already does. I'm not sure, but I think Samsung has something too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I think Pixel 8 and 8a do too, or at least are capable, since they're the same chip. I'd check, but I put GrapheneOS on my phone so I don't have all of the Google stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Imprudent3449@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago I think Pixel 8 and 8a do too, or at least are capable, since they're the same chip. I'd check, but I put GrapheneOS on my phone so I don't have all of the Google stuff. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I doubt it. The Pixels may be doing some but with Google I'm sure it's not much as they always prefer server side computing. iPhone will definitely aim to do most of it on device and use the server as little as possible. Which imo is the way to go. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Piece_Maker@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago Android 15 beta... so it'll be available on phones, out of the box, without anyone having to build/install a custom, on phones actual normal humans buy in about 2030 then. permalink fedilink source parent