I was talking with a friend who mentioned "taking tea to India". It made me wonder what the equivalents are around the world. "Taking coals to Newcastle" is the UK's.

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[–] 53 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Ice to Eskimos in the eastern us. Yes, I know Eskimo isn't preferred but that didn't stop Nana.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Same, or "he could sell igloos to eskimos" to describe an especially skilled salesman.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Carrying water to the sea is the Dutch version.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago

    Taking guns to America?

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    What does the phrase mean?

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Coals to Newcastle works well in Australia too. (I don't think I've ever actually heard that in practice though.)

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Australia also has a Newcastle (in New South Wales, north of Sydney). Not sure if it has/had coal mines, though I wouldn’t be surprised if it did. Australians using the phrase may be referring to their Newcastle, and even unaware of the English one.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    Australia also has a Newcastle (in New South Wales, north of Sydney)

    Yes, that's why I mentioned it. When I said "works well in Australia", what I meant was "in theory, the same logic you used to apply it to Newcastle-upon-Tyne could be used to apply it to Newcastle, NSW", and not that it actually is used in Australia (I know I've never heard it).

    Not sure if it has/had coal mines

    Not just does it, but it is in fact home to Australia's largest coal-shipping port. In fact, Port of Newcastle is, according to Wikipedia, the world's largest coal terminal.

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Apparently "owls to Athens" is common across Europe? "Wood to the forest" is a variant in the US

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Is "Owls to Athens" a reference to Athena?

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Yes and no. It's a circular relationship. The proverb is known to have already existed in Ancient Greece. The pantheon (the version that existed before Xerxes torched the place) was apparently inhabited by tons of owls, especially it's roof construction. Since the pantheon was a temple to Athena, people assumed Athena held Owls holy and the owl became linked to Athena, and since Athena was the goddess of wisdom, Owls became a symbol of wisdom. Since the city and her patron goddess are related by name, Athens is linked to owls as well.

    But for the meaning: It's to be taken literally. There were many owls in Athens, so they'd not exactly need any more.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago

    I feel like the closest in the deep south is just "preaching to the choir". A redundant task which ignores a probably better path or explaining something to someone who doesn't need it explained to them.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I think "selling ice to Eskimos" is the American equivalent. Naturally, the amerikkka version of this phrase: 1) involves an exonym that's a bit offensive 2) kinda makes doing a pointless exercise sound like a good thing.

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    Germany:

    • carry owls to Athens

    Regional:

    • bring beer to Munich
    • carry peat to the bog
    • carry water to the Rhine
    • drive snails to Metz
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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Bringing juggalos to SXSW

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    We also use "taking coals to Newcastle" here in the Midwestern U.S. (Something about being descended from former British colonies...) But I've heard plenty of riffs on that idea, like, "bringing corn to Iowa."

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Bringing sand to Sahara

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    "Selling sand in sahara."

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Taking weed to BC (Canada)

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Bring weed to Oregon.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    In Poland it is „nosić drewno do lasu” (bring wood to the forest). Similar, but a bit different (pointless not just by being pointless, but by being impossible): „nie zawrócisz kijem Wisły” – 'you won't turn Vistula (our biggest river) with a stick'.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    In Spanish we have "llevar leña a la montaña" (take firewood to the mountain) as well as "llevar hierro a Vizcaya" which is take iron to Vizcaya, a city in Spain

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Taking sand to the beach.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    When I first heard this phrase, Andy Cole was playing for Newcastle and it was very confusing to me wee mind... Cole's to Newcastle what?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    I had to look it up and apparently it's "mencurahkan garam ke laut" a.k.a. "bringing salt to the sea" (Indonesian)

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Bringing even more ukkkraine flags to :estonia-cool: especially in the last 2 years. The flags and colours are bloody everywhere and not one has been removed.

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    [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    I'm in the midlands and never heard that phrase but I have heard taking ice to the eskimos, which might be offensive now.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    We would say ag tabhairt liúdar go Toraigh (carrying coalfish (pollachius virens) to Tory Island)

    Or ag cuimilt saille/blonóige de thóin na muice méithe (rubbing lard on a fat pig's arse)

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Kind of an odd saying, I'm 100% sure Newcastle uses gas for their grill and not a single fast food place uses charcoal grills. If you brought coal to Newcastle, they would have no use for such a thing.

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    It's an archaic saying but that doesn't mean that the meaning has been lost.

    Almost the entire industrial revolution was coal powered and the most common fuel for heating homes was coal. Coal used to be an extremely popular and useful commodity.

    Edit: I now see that you thought the town of Newcastle was the fast food chain White Castle lol. I did wonder why you were going on about grills!

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