Gaming. In the car. π
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Yeah, you've never had to wait around for something in your car?
Honestly, not long enough to be able to whip out a game. The closest is picking someone up at the airport, but I usually get there a few min after the flight lands.
So yeah, it's not something I've really felt I needed. I've brought my Steam Deck with me a handful of times, but never actually used it.
Fair enough. I don't think I'd really use it that much either but Steam has pretty great cloud saves and such so I might play a couple of rounds of Balatro or something while I waited and pick it up again back home on the couch on the Steam deck.
Don't you have phones?! You could play Diablo.
Itβs honestly a smart idea, especially when waiting around at a charger while on a road trip or something.
You should probably take a brief walk instead. Regular, actual brakes are important to reduce fatalities.
There already are games in the vehicle. They're just all pretty lightweight. The newer GPUs have a lot more power for the newer Autopilot and FSD processing.
They can only be used while parked, and help kill time when waiting for people or while charging if you are on a slower charger or have a longer charge time between segments.
can only be used while parked.
This clears things up. I imagined gaming occurring while driving which is a problem for obvious crazy and ethical reasons. Silly me.
What throws me off now is the apparent waiting that occurs. I'm interested in EVs, but I didn't imagine the amount waiting. I presumed this was only for road trips. But... based on the comments I've seen... people just seem to spend a lot of time waiting in their cars for all sorts of reasons? The kind of waiting where gaming apparently makes sense? π€·π½ββοΈ
Waiting when picking someone up, waiting when charging, waiting because you couldnβt go inside with them (at least during Covid), waiting because they had to use the bathroom and tou donβt know how long itβs gonna take, waiting for an employee to bring you stuff (βcurbsideβ pickup), waiting because you had to show up early in order to get a parking spot but the place isnβt open, lots of things
I have a modern car (2022) but not a Tesla, and I can only use the Google voice assistant while I'm driving, I'm not allowed to type
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Have you seen the dashboard on a Tesla? It's a big tablet and that's it. Many of the basic controls you might need easy access to are hidden behind touchscreen menus. They need to pump it with features to prevent people from thinking too much about it
You can play Need For Speed or Gran Turismo.
I mean, for passengers I think it could be cool, I doubt anyone sane would say use it while you yourself are driving.
I think you might be over estimating the number of sane drivers.
While the car was in park. Never when the car was in drive, as it flat didn't work.
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Was Steam getting to woke for musk, or did a contract negotiation fail?
It was just that he already used it for the hype and now it no longer gets any attention just requires people to maintain it.
This is a lot more boring than any of that. Just tech debt
The absurdity of this headline makes "You wouldn't download a car" seem like a not-so-distant future PSA/ad campaign.
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I mean my expectations of Elon is so low I am like "good job for not doing the stupid thing Elon!" where I normally would be like "Duh ofcourse"
Drops as in adds, or as in removes?
Removed in new vehicles.
Quote from the article
Tesla is updating the gaming computer in your Model X and your vehicle is no longer capable of playing Steam games. All other entertainment and app functionalities are unaffected.
You ignored the sentences on either side of that:
However, we now learn that Tesla is dropping the feature. The automaker wrote to people taking delivery of new Model S and Model X vehicles:
Tesla is updating the gaming computer in your Model X and your vehicle is no longer capable of playing Steam games. All other entertainment and app functionalities are unaffected.
It doesnβt sound like current owners are affected by the change.
Notice the phrasing of New vehicles and writing to people expecting delivery of them, not current owners.
Anyway, who's dumb enough to buy a car that can spy on you ?
Good luck finding a new one that doesn't.
That's why dumb cars are superior
Yeah, but you can't keep buying second hand cars. Some brand really needs to start making dumb electric cars (it at least allow you to replace/upgrade the computer easily).
There's a company in Los Angeles that will convert any ICE into an EV. Those are likely to be dumb EVs if you want the option now.
And that costs a fortune compared to what a mass produced new car with a basic open source stack would cost if someone built it.
Yup. I'm looking into buying an EV, which naturally leads me to looking into disabling all the smart crap.
I just need it to go from A to B, and play audio from my phone on the way. That's it. I don't need weather reports, cameras, auto pilot, etc, I just need a pedal and an aux jack or something to connect to speakers. Oh, and the speakers are optional, I can bring my own.
As are smart TVs.
If only there were 50" pc monitors for cheap.
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Evey modern car can and does. Lawmakers currently sit on their hands regarding that.
Lawmakers are currently enforcing it.
This just seems like a piss in the cherrios move. Like it wasn't hurting anyone?
Most likely they just don't want to continue having to support it at all going forwards.
Tech debt is a big issue with codebases as time goes on. Steam isn't necessary, and usage likely wasn't very high, so the time to maintain updating it was likely determined to not be worth it. So you end support where it's at with the currently deployed user base and let it die naturally.
The host OS needs to do very little to maintain Steam compatibility. Most is done by Steam itself.
That doesn't have any bearing on whether Tesla wants to officially support it on more vehicles.
If something breaks, people will blame Tesla first, even if they changed absolutely nothing. The average person has very little technical knowledge and essentially thinks of all of their electronics as a magic box that just works, until it doesn't. They don't care about the how, the why, or the who, they just care about whether it works or not. And if it doesn't, the first person they blame is whoever makes the box, even if they have nothing to do with the software the person was using.
If something breaks, people will blame Tesla first
Like when Tesla remove a feature they sold their cars with?
They're removing it before these cars are delivered. So not actually sold yet. Hence the notification to those buyers.
Good?
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